VYNL Bikes - Page 3

soulspinner · #31 08-19-2016, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ebaumann

a cielo is almost $3k for a stock sized frameset...
That.
Is.
Nuts.
Nuts.

You could get a custom frame from almost anyone you want for that kinda money.

+1

.RJ · #32 08-19-2016, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by chiasticon

agreed. plenty of fish in the sea for aluminum frames now. and as eBAUMANN says, you can get a custom Zanc for just a little more. probably a custom FTW for about that too. I absolutely adore my Zanc road bike and would go right back to him for another, should I need it. or for an aluminum cx bike. dude knows what's up and he's a hell of a nice guy.

anyway, yeah I believe your first statement is correct. their road bikes were made by Zen but then they moved to FTW for cx bikes. wouldn't be surprised if they eventually have him making their road bikes too, since there's no Zen. I mean he started making vynl and spooky cx bikes basically right at the same time, from my understanding. so apparently there's no conflict, although that seems odd... handshake agreement from vynl not to use the same geo and anodize their frames? who knows...

livingminimal: yeah, my spooky cx bike is like riding a jackhammer. but it's only designed to be ridden for an hour, right? but modern aluminum is something else. my deda-tubed Zanc is hard to distinguish from a steel bike (like my Sachs); it's just so smooth... but it's way more responsive than steel I've ridden, when you start to really throw some watts at it. Zanc didn't build it with super-oversized tubes and design it for maximum stiffness though, so it's a really pleasant ride.

Or, if you want to save money and like aluminum, then a specialized smartweld or cannondale frame will fit the bill for half the cost and ride much nicer.

I like aluminum ALOT for crits & cx racing, its got its place. But I never understood the vynl or spooky bikes, seems like such a poor value, and the gaulzetti's are even more expensive.

Idris Icabod · #33 08-19-2016, 06:05 PM

If anyone is in the market for a cheap as chips and decent quality aluminium frame/fork/headset, Trek is selling off their Emonda ALR framesets for $699 now:

http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bi...p/1426100-2016

bcroslin · #34 08-19-2016, 06:14 PM

These bikes look killer but you can buy a complete caad12 for just little more.

As far as ride quality goes, aluminum frames have come a long way. I'm riding a caad12 and running 25's and there's no road buzz. The bike rides like my EVO hi-mod. Only difference is it's about 1/2 lbs heavier.

I've ridden carbon bikes since '05 and right now I'm riding an aluminum bike and a steel bike and I'm not missing a thing. Hoping to have something Ti under me soon.

avalonracing · #35 08-19-2016, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Idris Icabod

If anyone is in the market for a cheap as chips and decent quality aluminium frame/fork/headset, Trek is selling off their Emonda ALR framesets for $699 now:

http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bi...p/1426100-2016

Nice deal but eff anything with a noisy pressfit BB when compared to a threaded BB.

livingminimal · #36 08-20-2016, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by chiasticon

livingminimal: yeah, my spooky cx bike is like riding a jackhammer. but it's only designed to be ridden for an hour, right? but modern aluminum is something else. my deda-tubed Zanc is hard to distinguish from a steel bike (like my Sachs); it's just so smooth... but it's way more responsive than steel I've ridden, when you start to really throw some watts at it. Zanc didn't build it with super-oversized tubes and design it for maximum stiffness though, so it's a really pleasant ride.

Totally. a pure race machine (crits or CX) are good applications for alloy. I could maybe get into that, if I did crits, or if I wanted a CX bike that I didn't actually spend more time on than strictly racing.

sandyrs · #37 08-24-2016, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by livingminimal

Totally. a pure race machine (crits or CX) are good applications for alloy. I could maybe get into that, if I did crits, or if I wanted a CX bike that I didn't actually spend more time on than strictly racing.

I just did D2R2 on my aluminum Gaulzetti. Every single thing about it was better than when I did it on my Honey two years ago.

livingminimal · #38 08-24-2016, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sandyrs

I just did D2R2 on my aluminum Gaulzetti. Every single thing about it was better than when I did it on my Honey two years ago.

STOP TRYING TO BREAK MY MIND!

Your Honey is sick. Still have it, or did it finally sell?

sandyrs · #39 08-24-2016, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by livingminimal

STOP TRYING TO BREAK MY MIND!

Your Honey is sick. Still have it, or did it finally sell?

Haha. I still have it, and am building it up as my dedicated singlespeed for this season. I still love it, I just wish a couple things about it (tire clearance and braking mainly) were different (and I translated those to my 'zetti).

zacstanley · #40 08-24-2016, 06:12 PM

Ventana makes these frames not FTW. Yes they are aware of Paul and Rock Lobster - In fact one of the designers races for the RL factory team.

I think they def have their place in crits and cx racing.

I've been racing on Aluminum Lobsters for 5+ years and even won a few over dudes fully outiftted in plastic.

Zing!