Stephen Bilenky-Craftsman's Legacy

[YesNdeed]

http://www.craftsmanslegacy.com/craf...tephen-Bilenky
I'm catching this about half way through. The episode should circulate for a while on your local PBS Create TV.

[Clean39T]

I can't believe this hasn't sold: https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/6102663087.html

If anyone here wants it, I'd be happy to facilitate.


Forum Quote du Jour:

"It's just a bike. If you want another and can afford it, buy it. It will be fast, if you pedal it fast." -- Jr59

[Mzilliox]

Originally Posted by Clean39T

I can't believe this hasn't sold: https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/6102663087.html

If anyone here wants it, I'd be happy to facilitate.


Forum Quote du Jour:

"It's just a bike. If you want another and can afford it, buy it. It will be fast, if you pedal it fast." -- Jr59

damn, badass bike but too large for me.

[ColonelJLloyd]

Originally Posted by Clean39T

I can't believe this hasn't sold: https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/6102663087.html
If anyone here wants it, I'd be happy to facilitate.

It did sell. On eBay. For over a thousand dollars less than the flipper is asking.

[Clean39T]

Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd

It did sell. On eBay. For over a thousand dollars less than the flipper is asking.

Wow. I'd love to show up at their door with a screen-shot of that if I were trying to negotiate...still, it's worth what someone will pay for it, and seems like a good bike even at $2K...I generally don't begrudge the opportunist as long as they are being honest about condition, etc. of the product...


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"It's just a bike. If you want another and can afford it, buy it. It will be fast, if you pedal it fast." -- Jr59

[ColonelJLloyd]

My point is that the value seems to be established to be about $1,285 plus some reasonable amount of shipping. It sold at that price and presumably hasn't been sold since.

[Aaron O]

Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd

My point is that the value seems to be established to be about $1,285 plus some reasonable amount of shipping. It sold at that price and presumably hasn't been sold since.

That's within a few hundred dollars of what I would have guessed as its average value. The CL price was delusional/optimistic.

[Clean39T]

Originally Posted by Aaron O

That's within a few hundred dollars of what I would have guessed as its average value. The CL price was delusional/optimistic.

This is Portland - everything here is delusional to some extent..

At least this is supported by some nice craftsmanship in that frame and the Campy group.


Forum Quote du Jour:

"It's just a bike. If you want another and can afford it, buy it. It will be fast, if you pedal it fast." -- Jr59

[pncguy]

Must. Stop. Looking. At. Bikes.

[joosttx]

Ridiculous high price

[Ken Robb]

I wondered about his offer to trade for a "gravel/adventure bike-disc brakes only." Well, why wouldn't this Bilenky that he already owns fit that description?

[NHAero]

I'm curious why this is so. A custom frame that isn't too odd from a highly respected builder; Campy Record 10 group; White Industries wheels; King, Nitto, Brooks. This bike isn't worth $2300? It seems to me that the fact it sold on ebay for $1K less can be happenstance.
This is a serious question - why is it ridiculously priced (especially if you didn't know the ebay price)?
Thanks

Originally Posted by joosttx

Ridiculous high price

[merckxman]

What would you attach to the fork crowns?

[Aaron O]

Originally Posted by NHAero

I'm curious why this is so. A custom frame that isn't too odd from a highly respected builder; Campy Record 10 group; White Industries wheels; King, Nitto, Brooks. This bike isn't worth $2300? It seems to me that the fact it sold on ebay for $1K less can be happenstance.
This is a serious question - why is it ridiculously priced (especially if you didn't know the ebay price)?
Thanks

I think it's ridiculous for CL because, IME, people expect a DEEP discount on CL. Selling anything over $500 on CL is a challenge unless it's at half of what it would usually sell for on eBay.

In this case it's a large frame from a smaller name builder. Those two factors definitely work against it. Bilenky stuff tends to be on the heavier/over built side as well. Smaller name, large build AND campy all lead to a relatively small market where you either have to be very patient or accept it's going to sell pretty low.

I think a lot of people buying bikes like this also want to build it themselves, so the parts on there are just things they have to take off. It limits market.

[palincss]

Originally Posted by merckxman

What would you attach to the fork crowns?

Typically a small front rack, I'd guess.