Another all road release: parlee ouray

[prototoast]

Originally Posted by Clean39T

Difference being though that Pegoretti frames have level TTs, so they don't look like aesthetic abominations with a -12 or -17 stem..

Plus Pegoretti stock geometry is based on a premise that you'll run a long(ish) stem and need/like long(ish) setback - which isn't really how most/any newer allroad bikes are being designed.

So your comment was just aesthetic? They're only selling these frames through dealers with a custom fit, so I assume they could be set up with a long stem as appropriate.

[bicycletricycle]

Originally Posted by Clean39T

Difference being though that Pegoretti frames have level TTs, so they don't look like aesthetic abominations with a -12 or -17 stem..

Plus Pegoretti stock geometry is based on a premise that you'll run a long(ish) stem and need/like long(ish) setback - which isn't really how most/any newer allroad bikes are being designed.

I wonder who has sold more frames, peg or parlee? not that this makes their geometry right or wrong, curious to know though.

As far as the parlee goes, well, I don't think unfashionably too short front center will make or break sales on something like this.

I don't know they break down on sales of 10k builds but I assume a large fraction are older folks buying something nice and not high performance geometry trend following hyper analytical science of performance "I order my stems in 1 millimeter increments like team sky" types

[Clean39T]

Originally Posted by bicycletricycle

I wonder who has sold more frames, peg or parlee? not that this makes their geometry right or wrong, curious to know though.

As far as the parlee goes, well, I don't think unfashionably too short front center will make or break sales on something like this.

I don't know they break down on sales of 10k builds but I assume a large fraction are older folks buying something nice and not high performance geometry trend following hyper analytical science of performance "I order my stems in 1 millimeter increments like team sky" types

You have solid points as usual -- and as usual, I'm off tilting at twirly-wheels..

[bicycletricycle]

Originally Posted by Clean39T

Was interested - then saw the geometry..

Why do bike brands think sub-400mm reach is acceptable for an XL?

Well, they may have some kind of idea from selling slightly more bikes than you have about what people want in different sizes?

[yinzerniner]

Originally Posted by nmrt

The TT slope and the stem angle do not juxtapose.

So you mean that the stem and TT match? Since “not juxtapose” means they’re NOT at odds

But seriously looks nice but lack of storage / mount options seems like an oversight. Decent geo, but no pricing info. Can’t be cheap if it’s custom.

[prototoast]

Geometry looks pretty upright, and price is a bit steep, but it's good to see Parlee putting out something new, and I hope they have success with this.

[Likes2ridefar]

And it’s made in EU. Eye popping price is my guess!

[prototoast]

Originally Posted by Likes2ridefar

And it’s made in EU. Eye popping price is my guess!

$5,299 for a frameset, per bikerumor. https://bikerumor.com/new-parlee-our...all-road-bike/

[Philster]

Lots of choice in this category at this point. I count 4 launches in 10 days. BMC, Enve, FiftyOne, and Parlee.

[nmrt]

Looks like 2024 is the year of the All Road bike -- road-ish geometry with longer wheelbase and 38 - 40 mm tire clearance. Unfortunately, I want a quiver, not a quiver-killer.

Nice finish though.

Originally Posted by Philster

Lots of choice in this category at this point. I count 4 launches in 10 days. BMC, Enve, FiftyOne, and Parlee.

[Philster]

Originally Posted by nmrt

Looks like 2024 is the year of the All Road bike -- road-ish geometry with longer wheelbase and 38 - 40 mm tire clearance. Unfortunately, I want a quiver, not a quiver-killer.

Nice finish though.

This type of bike is part of a quiver. It’s the in between bike for when your road bike and gravel bike aren’t quite right.

I’ve been on a quest to find what I call the 50/50. For rides that are half dirt and half pavement.

[nmrt]

I like how you think. Making a quiver killer into a n+1.

Originally Posted by Philster

This type of bike is part of a quiver. It’s the in between bike for when your road bike and gravel bike aren’t quite right.

I’ve been on a quest to find what I call the 50/50. For rides that are half dirt and half pavement.

[Clean39T]

Originally Posted by Philster

Lots of choice in this category at this point. I count 4 launches in 10 days. BMC, Enve, FiftyOne, and Parlee.

The FiftyOne Sika seems the best of the bunch -- the rest are too tall and too short in the reach to be ridden seriously.. And the Sika is borderline there.

[nmrt]

This is the new "Real Rider" geometry. Whether it fits "Fake Riders" or not, methinks a vast majority of riders (to whom the bike is targeted) will find the geometry appealing -- more stack and short reach. I do believe that Enve and Parlee and the other bunch have done their homework here.

Originally Posted by Clean39T

The FiftyOne Sika seems the best of the bunch -- the rest are too tall and too short in the reach to be ridden seriously.. And the Sika is borderline there.

[yinzerniner]

Originally Posted by Clean39T

The FiftyOne Sika seems the best of the bunch -- the rest are too tall and too short in the reach to be ridden seriously.. And the Sika is borderline there.

Isn’t that kind of the point with these all road bikes? That they’re made for people who just can’t fit the typical road race geo without a ton of spacers, stem and bar adjustment / additions?

I believe that it’s been mentioned a few times on the escape collective podcasts that they hoped for fast bikes that look good with more relaxed geo. Seems like some manufactures listened.

For sure there will continue to be pro-level racing bikes in the future, but having a bike that looks, rides and feels like a pro bike without requiring pro weight and flexibility can only be a good thing, right?

And integrated storage and mounts for these are a nice add on, but don’t see it as being a full stop requirement. But between this and the Endurace, Fray, Roadmaxhine, Domane, and Roubaix it’s getting a bit crowded in a good way.