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Between GvA's Paris Tours victory in 2011 and his Het Nieuwsblad victory in 2016, he had no classics victory of importance (a 1.1 GP Wallonie aside). He's had an annus mirabilis from Spring of 2016 to 2017, but there's no guarantee that this would continue. One could well argue that Kwiatkowski is as good of a classics rider as GvA, as the latter has won Strade 2x, MSR 1x, Amstel 1x, E3 1x, San Sebastian 1x, and Worlds 1x. In contrast, GvA has won Het Nieuwsblad 2x, Roubaix 1x, Gent 1x, E3 1x, Paris Tours 1x, Montreal 1x, and Olympics 1x. Kwiatkowski is younger, to boot. |
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My take from the drift in this thread (from Worlds RR to who's who in the classics): we are enjoying the "good old days" of one day racing. GvA, Kwiatkowski, Sagan, and Gilbert are all very talented and willing to animate races. Several others such as Kristoff and Degenkolb have had purple patches of form too. With the Boonen-Cancellara era over, it's good to have another group of exciting riders to watch. Can't wait for the 2018 spring classics!
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Hope springs eternal. In our case, spring is the best time of the year
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But I think that's pretty dang common, especially at the top. Without going back to several years of results to verify, it seems to me that since Cancellara and Boonen stepped back, the Classics field has been pretty wide open: lots of talent, unpredictable races, and no one person dominant. That means that some of the best riders out there are gonna be light on wins. Hell, after winning his WC, Phil Gil didn't win much for years; Kwiatkowski, a great all-around talent, isn't much of a threat to win the same race twice; GVA was known as a nearly man; and the holes in Sagan's palmares are clear; Kristoff was on a tear in 2015 - and naught since. 2015 looked like it was setting up a Degenkolb/Kristoff rivalry for the ages, but, well, we all saw how that shook out: Kristoff's success interrupted by apparent team dissatisfaction, and Degenkolb's career interrupted by that car collision. |
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Finally, we can all agree on something.
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What makes Peter Sagan great?
Entertainer, non-conformist, king of consistency: as Sagan joins pro cycling’s 100 club, we look at what makes him the generation’s superstar Words: Andy McGrath Photographs: ASO & Offside / L'Equipe https://rouleur.cc/editorial/peter-sagan-great/ . |
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Also Valgren and Sagan were teammates on Tinkov. I know that I've worked willingly and without hesitation for friends on other teams. If in a given race I don't have a particular goal in mind (maybe finish doesn't suit me) and I have no teammates in the race, I won't hesitate to work for someone I know. They probably don't know I'm working for them, to the point that even if they were riding near me they wouldn't know. It's all subtle stuff for the most part, mainly forcing other competitors to work harder without them realizing it. I wonder if there's a professional version of this, even for riders on different teams. Sagan could demand post-crit promoters include Valgren in a crit or whatever, or direct his team to ease while Valgren is off the front in a less important race day (like a stage where Sagan is in green and doesn't want his team to ride all day). Etc. |
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I thought that sky was going to be able to do something in this worlds, specially Froome, this thing was perfect for him and his team. but since they did not get anything it means or that they were off , not in a peak or that all the foreign riders they have which make sky team great. IMO probably is the second.
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Or Valgren was working for Magnus Cort Neilsen?
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