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Old 07-30-2013, 08:49 PM
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Anyone tried the VSalon-Too Tall chain lube?
Yes, I have.. It's called NFS. Awesome.
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Old 07-30-2013, 08:23 PM
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I have found Dumonde Tech Lite to be an excellent product. It is however, a little overly aromatic during application.

http://www.dumondetech.com/dumonde/products/bicycle-2/
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Old 07-31-2013, 02:52 PM
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I'm in this camp as well and won't be buying more Boeshield t9 once I run out. It's been ok, but it doesn't last long in the dry, last at all in the wet and is very difficult to clean off residue.

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Good product but better for other applications than as a chain lube. I jumped on it 20+ years ago when it was introduced. Chain got noisy after 150-200 miles. Have used it as a "frame saver" solution on new frames with good results tho. Works well on unpainted/unplated steel to keep it from rusting.
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Old 07-30-2013, 10:36 PM
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Anyone here tried Lilly Lube? http://lillylube.com/
Is this your guerrilla marketing?



I picked up some Einzsett gel grease for my motorcycle, I started using it on the bicycle. I've always been happy w/ their wax and polish products on my vehicles. Seems to do it's job... Motorcycles have O-rings between each plate though, which needs conditioning that bicycles don't so it's a little overkill.

http://www.1z-usa.com/chain-lubricant.html

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Old 07-31-2013, 10:51 AM
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Is this your guerrilla marketing?

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No, no connection to them. I stumbled onto their site and liked the home-business feel of the video on their site. Just wondered if anyone here has tried it before I buy.
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Old 07-31-2013, 11:18 AM
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No, no connection to them. I stumbled onto their site and liked the home-business feel of the video on their site. Just wondered if anyone here has tried it before I buy.
Looking at the instructions, I have to wonder if it has a high solvent content.
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Old 01-31-2013, 07:21 AM
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Since it has not been mentioned yet, I will put in a vote for Chain-L lube. It is everything they advertise it to be.
I have a sample bottle and yep, it lubes and quiets everything but it reminds me of 30w. Very thick and boy, does it get dirty.
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Old 01-31-2013, 07:30 AM
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1 part chainsaw oil to 3 parts (or so) mineral spirits. Consistency should be in the neighborhood of maple syrup. Homebrew and be done with it.
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Old 01-31-2013, 08:05 AM
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Very little has been said about the VELO article that seemed unbiased & scientific. It had numbers to back up that paraffin wax made your drivetrain more efficient. "The only real argument against paraffin wax is its more intensive application process. It's obviously the fastest in ideal conditions, & even in nasty conditions it is still an exceptional single-day lube." I found this surprising but have not used paraffin wax on a chain since I was a child. {a long time ago}
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Old 01-31-2013, 07:49 PM
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Very little has been said about the VELO article that seemed unbiased & scientific. It had numbers to back up that paraffin wax made your drivetrain more efficient. "The only real argument against paraffin wax is its more intensive application process. It's obviously the fastest in ideal conditions, & even in nasty conditions it is still an exceptional single-day lube." I found this surprising but have not used paraffin wax on a chain since I was a child. {a long time ago}
That should have been the lead phrase. Impractical for normal use. Bicycling magazine had a DIY article on paraffin 30+ years ago and I fell for it. Maybe 150 miles till my chain started squeaking. Unless you're going for the hour record, stick with your favorite lube.
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Old 01-31-2013, 08:09 PM
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That should have been the lead phrase. Impractical for normal use. Bicycling magazine had a DIY article on paraffin 30+ years ago and I fell for it. Maybe 150 miles till my chain started squeaking. Unless you're going for the hour record, stick with your favorite lube.
That is what I suspected. I wondered how this stuff could be so great but nobody is using it.
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Old 01-31-2013, 08:17 PM
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If its not flamable....its not lube. Thats our moto at the shop. Prolink Extreme has been a favorite as of late. I like it even more than the original.
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Old 01-31-2013, 09:35 PM
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it worked well for me

I used paraffin wax for several years back maybe 20 or so years ago. I liked it better than anything else I've used before or since. What I liked was that it was very clean and I never got chain tattoos when my leg brushed up against it. Much cleaner than anything else. What I didn't like about it was the complication of applying it. I had a double boiler in which the lower pan filled with water over the stove melted the wax in the top pan. One of the secrets to application was to leave the chain in the melted wax long enough so the chain itself came up to the wax temperature. That way when I lifted it out the hot wax would run off the chain instead of clumping to it. A few paper towel wipes and the excess was gone and ready to install.

I typically got 800 to 1000 miles before I needed to reapply wax. I knew when it would start to get noisy. This would be greatly cut short if I got caught in pouring rain. I seldom rode my good bike in the rain anyway. Of course I always used a chain link that allowed easy chain removal and reinstallation. The problem I found was that sometimes at the end of the wax's milage I didn't have time to rewax it before a ride so I would apply some traditional lubricant. Then if I wanted to apply wax again I had to clean the chain of the new lubricant and I didn't want to be bothered so I just left it.

I should add that some other lubricants require some complicated application techniques too. Primarily the chain has to be really clean and I'd have to put it in my ultra sonic cleaner several times with new cleaner.
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Old 01-31-2013, 09:58 PM
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I used paraffin wax for several years back maybe 20 or so years ago. I liked it better than anything else I've used before or since. What I liked was that it was very clean and I never got chain tattoos when my leg brushed up against it. Much cleaner than anything else. What I didn't like about it was the complication of applying it. I had a double boiler in which the lower pan filled with water over the stove melted the wax in the top pan. One of the secrets to application was to leave the chain in the melted wax long enough so the chain itself came up to the wax temperature. That way when I lifted it out the hot wax would run off the chain instead of clumping to it. A few paper towel wipes and the excess was gone and ready to install.

I typically got 800 to 1000 miles before I needed to reapply wax. I knew when it would start to get noisy. This would be greatly cut short if I got caught in pouring rain. I seldom rode my good bike in the rain anyway. Of course I always used a chain link that allowed easy chain removal and reinstallation. The problem I found was that sometimes at the end of the wax's milage I didn't have time to rewax it before a ride so I would apply some traditional lubricant. Then if I wanted to apply wax again I had to clean the chain of the new lubricant and I didn't want to be bothered so I just left it.

I should add that some other lubricants require some complicated application techniques too. Primarily the chain has to be really clean and I'd have to put it in my ultra sonic cleaner several times with new cleaner.

If anyone else posted the above, I would question their veracity. IMO, you are more trusted than Frank Bruno! Will try it once more, using your technique.
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Old 04-18-2013, 08:12 PM
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My guess is VeloNews will be publishing a rebuttal from the folks at ProGold! Even if the "metal conditioner" claim is marketing nonsense, I'll still use ProLink - it works fine as far I can tell.

I used to try every new lube available in search of the holy grail of a perfectly clean, quiet and long-lasting drivetrain. I've given up for the most part..

http://velonews.competitor.com/2013/...progold_282854
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