Anyone else here not remotely care about football?

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by Elefantino

Richmond paid $4.1 million start to finish for the 2015 Road Worlds, but much of that was to improve existing infrastructure and will have a lasting effect.

I'm not sure what financing a billion-dollar stadium does for a city, beyond 10 Sundays a year and the occasional monster truck event.

This..Not saying $billion dollar stadiums are any answer but all these people spend $.Yesterday's Bronco rally/parade.

[avalonracing]

Yes they did spend... On a lot of products Officially Licensed by the NFL that are made in China. More money for the NFL and more outsourcing. Go Team!

[BobC]

Originally Posted by malcolm

Yours is an argument based on exception. Leave the linemen out of it and I'll argue these are the best athletes going. If you look at strength, speed, flexibility and ability to do the basic things thought of as athletic. Lift as a percentage of body weight, run, jump, what group is better??

Water Polo Players.

Not even close.

[livingminimal]

You know what the worst is?

People that are "fans" of colleges they never took a single class at.

Just because of some ····ing sports team.

[firerescuefin]

Originally Posted by avalonracing

Yes they did spend... On a lot of products Officially Licensed by the NFL that are made in China. More money for the NFL and more outsourcing. Go Team!

I'm sure none of those folks spend money in the 303/720

I'd never support the economic argument for a sport team/new stadiums, but unless you want to tell me how you only buy stuff that is made in the USA, regardless of expense...find a different road to go down.

[Tony T]

When does the 2016 season begin?

[zap]

When does American football start resembling Rugby?

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by avalonracing

Yes they did spend... On a lot of products Officially Licensed by the NFL that are made in China. More money for the NFL and more outsourcing. Go Team!

and 8.31% sales tax...1,000,000 at this rally..if each spent $5 that day-$400,000+, one day. Like it or don't, sports teams make $ for the city/state. yes, for the NFL, owners, etc., but the question as to 'why' the stadium...plus

"On August 16, 2011, The Metropolitan Stadium District announced Invesco would immediately transfer the naming rights to Englewood, Colorado-based Sports Authority in a 25-year agreement worth $6 million per year"

$150,000,000.

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by Tony T

When does the 2016 season begin?

Spring training march....

[avalonracing]

Originally Posted by firerescuefin

I'm sure none of those folks spend money in the 303/720

I'd never support the economic argument for a sport team/new stadiums, but unless you want to tell me how you only buy stuff that is made in the USA, regardless of expense...find a different road to go down.

My stuff is only made in China... For Rapha.

Of course they spend money locally. I'm just pointing out that the real return for the millions of taxpayer dollars that go into stadiums goes back to the NFL and to dumb-ass jerseys with names of other people on the back.

I've always found it quite ridiculous that grown men walk around playing dress up like their favorite football player. When their replica jersey is in the wash do they dress up like astronauts and policemen?

[firerescuefin]

Originally Posted by avalonracing

My stuff is only made in China... For Rapha.

Of course they spend money locally. I'm just pointing out that the real return for the millions of taxpayer dollars that go into stadiums goes back to the NFL and to dumb-ass jerseys with names of other people on the back.

I've always found it quite ridiculous that grown men walk around playing dress up like their favorite football player. When their replica jersey is in the wash do they dress up like astronauts and policemen?

No argument with any of that

[gdw]

"I've always found it quite ridiculous that grown men walk around playing dress up like their favorite pro cycling team or rider. When their replica jersey is in the wash do they dress up like astronauts and policemen?"

Me too.

[Tony T]

Originally Posted by avalonracing

I've always found it quite ridiculous that grown men walk around playing dress up like their favorite football player. When their replica jersey is in the wash do they dress up like astronauts and policemen?

That applies to many sports.
(I guess you don't own a baseball cap )

[echappist]

Originally Posted by oldpotatoe

and 8.31% sales tax...1,000,000 at this rally..if each spent $5 that day-$400,000+, one day. Like it or don't, sports teams make $ for the city/state. yes, for the NFL, owners, etc., but the question as to 'why' the stadium...plus

"On August 16, 2011, The Metropolitan Stadium District announced Invesco would immediately transfer the naming rights to Englewood, Colorado-based Sports Authority in a 25-year agreement worth $6 million per year"

$150,000,000.

unless i'm mistaken (and i could be), the city doesn't see a dime of that $150M. Those get pocketed by the team, not for the repayment of the bonds taken out by the city.

And please tell me how many days it would take to recoup that amount. And even if you were to recoup that amount, there is still opportunity cost here.

edit: i'm partially mistaken. $400M stadium; $300M of which footed by the city, the other $100M by the owner. The naming rights get split half/half, but apparently even that's not enough to avoid cutting of school funding alluded to above.

source re: stadium funding: http://www.forbes.com/sites/darrenhe.../#32067ee1b491

[rugbysecondrow]

Originally Posted by livingminimal

You know what the worst is?

People that are "fans" of colleges they never took a single class at.

Just because of some ï½·ï½·ï½·ï½·ing sports team.

Colleges are a source of regional pride (UK, UNC, Illinois). Many couldn't afford to go to college, but they push their kids to attend.

I don't see any harm here.