Carbon fiber minor damage question

[Saint Vitus]

Yeah, yeah I know the internet is rife with these questions but heck I'm waiting on a machine repair so I have time to kill.

So I ran across a 585 Ultra in my size at a price that intrigues me but the below images are the driving force behind this post. The seller claims that he took it to Calfee and they said it was safe and won't affect the structure (it's the left chainstay). Granted I'll be pressing the issue of verifying the Calfee inspection, but I figured I'd ask all ye of greater knowledge/experience than I.

Who here would ride this as is (granted if Calfee took a second look), who here would have it fixed (if that is necessary or possible- maybe it's just cosmetic?) and who here would run far away?

[Dead Man]

You could have it repaired easily, also. Kind of an unfortunate spot for a repair, aesthetically.

[thegunner]

uh, that looks like it's through more than just the clear coat / paint... the top level of fibers looks compromised. i'd probably buy it (if it were cheap) and have calfee or ruckus or predator or someone just swap it out.

[vqdriver]

dunno. doesn't actually look horrible to me. i mean it's ugly, but it looks like some type of repetitive scaping, not accident damage. if that's my frame, i'd just keep riding it.

would i buy it? well, i guess that depends on the deal......

[Louis]

I'd be amazed if Calfee said that was safe.

[nicrump]

buying used carbon(or any material) with some kind of damage that is not understood buy the purchaser,

3 choices

1. pass
2. get proof(calfee charges to inspect and thus should have documentation)
3. low ball and get it fixed.

[vqdriver]

really? is that amount of damage really considered structural? i've seen carbon mtb frames that were knicked up way worse than that from rocks and dropped chains. maybe those tubes are thicker or something. what do i know.

[Saint Vitus]

Thanks guys for your insights, especially Nick for pointing out Calfee's inspection fee.

I was mulling over the damage and that the seller claims the original owner stated about it happening during a bike transport, and these marks to me look more intentional than random...

[RedRider]

Why buy someones broken bike? If your bike was damaged that would be different. Bicycles are a lot of fun. Don't start a new purchase with a problem. PASS.

[SlowPokePete]

Another vote for PASS.

SPP

[Admiral Ackbar]

id ride that for sure.

as previously mentioned, id ask for some proof it was looked at by calfee and given the all-clear.

if the price is right, buy it. especially if its a frame you've always lusted after

[Brian Cdn]

Best to get frame with no issues. I would pass.

[beeatnik]

OP, you asked in the wrong place.

And NC was just being diplomatic.

That bike is safe to ride. 999999 out of 1,000,000, um, cycles that bike would not fail catastrophically. If that weren't the case, consumer product safety commissions all over the world have to devote all their resources to bicycles. And the courts...

[Louis]

Originally Posted by beeatnik

That bike is safe to ride. 999999 out of 1,000,000, um, cycles that bike would not fail catastrophically. If that weren't the case, consumer product safety commissions all over the world would have to devote all their resources to bicycles. And the courts...

What's one cycle? One revolution of the pedals? If so, assuming 90 rpm, then 1e6 at that rate is 185 hrs. 2 hrs / ride means 92.6 rides. Beware on ride #93...

[kramnnim]

How much is this frame? Drew @ Cyclocarbon is cheaper than the more well known places and has been pulling off some pretty crazy repairs, you could get it patched even if it doesn't really need to be...