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Old 04-15-2023, 10:25 AM
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Do you tighten your water bottle bolts to a specific torque?

I tighten just about every other bolt with a torque wrench to a specific torque but do the water bottle bolts by feel - ie, does the cage wiggle.

So just curious, does anyone tighten to a certain spec?

5Nm is common in other spots but sounds kind of high for that spot.

A quick search brings up 2 and 3 Nm which seems to be similar to what I've done by hand.
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Old 04-15-2023, 11:38 AM
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Quick answer - no, never thought about it before.
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Old 04-15-2023, 12:02 PM
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Nope, just snug and tug. If your concerned about over tightening use a nylon bolt. The bolt will strip before the boss.
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Old 04-15-2023, 12:10 PM
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2Nm sounds like about finger tight. I've aimed for finger tight in the past. Also, for the record, Speedplay cleats say 2.5 Nm if using a torque wrench, or until the screws feel notchy if no torque wrench. They specially designed the screws so that you get a notchy feeling at their desired torque. Anyway, that's pretty little torque, and I think my water bottles are about that tight.

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Old 04-15-2023, 02:26 PM
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I don't use a torque wrench on any M5 or M6 bolt on my bikes.
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Old 04-15-2023, 02:31 PM
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Trek's specs for M5 waterbottle bolt- 2Nm, 3Nm max.

Typical spec for M5 waterbottle bolt- 3Nm, 4Nm max.

Both are from Lennard Zinn's, Zinn and the Art of Road Bike Maintenance.
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Old 04-15-2023, 02:32 PM
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No, the only places I use a torque wrench are
- stem bolts (both steerer and bar locations)
- seatpost collar (force of habit learned from carbon frames, so I do it on my steel frames also)
- headset preload
- front derailleur clamp

edit: Oops, forgot one:
- cleats
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Old 04-16-2023, 10:12 AM
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Snug. I have metal and plastic cages; I use an allen wrench lengthwise and make it hand tight.
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Old 04-16-2023, 11:40 AM
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One thing I'll say is do not under any circumstance tighten an empty waterbottle cage bolt against a simple riv-nut mount on an alloy, carbon, or titanium frame - it's just asking to have the spinning nut of death rise from the grave and haunt you. And yet people do it. Constantly.
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Old 04-16-2023, 12:06 PM
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Anyone use LocTite on water bottle cage bolts? I guess I've had them come loose on me on a rare occasion.
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Old 04-16-2023, 12:18 PM
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One thing I'll say is do not under any circumstance tighten an empty waterbottle cage bolt against a simple riv-nut mount on an alloy, carbon, or titanium frame - it's just asking to have the spinning nut of death rise from the grave and haunt you. And yet people do it. Constantly.
So, you need to tighten it when the bottle cage is full?
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Old 04-16-2023, 12:28 PM
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Anyone use LocTite on water bottle cage bolts? I guess I've had them come loose on me on a rare occasion.
Ideal place to use beeswax… at least, IME.
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Old 04-16-2023, 12:32 PM
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Now I have to go find a scrap frame and see what torque value will cause the rivnut to spin out.

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One thing I'll say is do not under any circumstance tighten an empty waterbottle cage bolt against a simple riv-nut mount on an alloy, carbon, or titanium frame - it's just asking to have the spinning nut of death rise from the grave and haunt you. And yet people do it. Constantly.
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Old 04-16-2023, 12:41 PM
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So, you need to tighten it when the bottle cage is full?
Ha ha, no, don't tighten the bolt without a cage on there.. syntax my friend.
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Old 04-16-2023, 12:52 PM
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Ha ha, no, don't tighten the bolt without a cage on there.. syntax my friend.
Well the syntax says it has to be either an empty water bottle, an empty cage, or an empty bolt. I guess it's the third?
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