Mavic Open Pro Exalith 2017

[godukes]

Originally Posted by simonov

That sounds like a review from someone that spent around 100 miles on Exalith and then wrote a review. Exalith will burn through the first set of pads fairly quickly and the toe-in does need to be set properly. But after that they don't go through pads faster than anything else and the noise is very subtle.

I agree with this - the rim aside, I had some magics with Exalith and it didn't go through the pads any faster than anything else.

[AngryScientist]

i am super stoked to get a set of these...

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by AngryScientist

i am super stoked to get a set of these...

Buy some and some hubs and send 'em to me and I'll build them and report back.

[jtbadge]

Comments from Jones Precision Wheels:

http://www.jonesprecisionwheels.com/...-an-old-friend

[KWalker]

What in the f**k is he talking about?

[velofinds]

Originally Posted by AngryScientist

The one shown in the above photo appears to be the disc brake version?

[AngryScientist]

Any intel on availability of these yet?

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by KWalker

What in the f**k is he talking about?

I get what he's saying although I think there are better aluminum rims for racing than the M2CD. Yup, most Mavic build fine but their reluctance to fix their noisy wedge and creaky eyelets(for over a decade!) means I'm still gonna look elsewhere for aluminum rims. Plus only available from Mavic, USA, an adventure in its own right. Ymmv and all that.

[R3awak3n]

Originally Posted by AngryScientist

Any intel on availability of these yet?

I read June

[Wakatel_Luum]

Originally Posted by oldpotatoe

I get what he's saying although I think there are better aluminum rims for racing than the M2CD. Yup, most Mavic build fine but their reluctance to fix their noisy wedge and creaky eyelets(for over a decade!) means I'm still gonna look elsewhere for aluminum rims. Plus only available from Mavic, USA, an adventure in its own right. Ymmv and all that.

I agree in that Mach2CD2 rims were good for their time but yes there are more up to date options available today...

I don't really agree with the dislike for Mavic rims, I've had and still use wheels built with CXP33, Open Pro, Mach2CD2, Ceramics & GEL330's. I've never had any issues with creaky eyelets etc?

In fact I just picked up a pair of NOS 36h Mach2CD2 rims for $50 AUD...yes they're heavy but bomb proof so they'll make great training wheels. I'm getting them built with Hope RS4 hubs and some lighter gauge spokes to give them a bit more feel. Some nice Veloflex Arenberg's will suit nicely...

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by Wakatel_Luum

I agree in that Mach2CD2 rims were good for their time but yes there are more up to date options available today...

I don't really agree with the dislike for Mavic rims, I've had and still use wheels built with CXP33, Open Pro, Mach2CD2, Ceramics & GEL330's. I've never had any issues with creaky eyelets etc?

In fact I just picked up a pair of NOS 36h Mach2CD2 rims for $50 AUD...yes they're heavy but bomb proof so they'll make great training wheels. I'm getting them built with Hope RS4 hubs and some lighter gauge spokes to give them a bit more feel. Some nice Veloflex Arenberg's will suit nicely...

I have had no problem with CXP-33, M2CD I use on my Merckx, have 3 spares waiting to be built. Saw at least one with the eyelet pulled out(single eyelet, make sure tension is proper, not too high!!). Built many, hundreds of Mavic wheels in the shop(T217, bunches of MTB rims, CXP-33, OpenSport(MA-3 a disaster-essentially recalled), OpenSUP, Reflex, etc)..and saw many, mostly OpenPro, with noisy wedge and creaky eyelets.

My gripe is that mavic refused to even acknowledge a problem, talking with some guys from France at interbike in the early 2000s..'we don't know what you are talking about'..with OpenPro rims specifically. So...Maybe these will be world beating..good for them, not only making rims but designing a new one, rim, not just a wheel.

[Imaking20]

Originally Posted by KWalker

What in the f**k is he talking about?

^this

[KWalker]

In personal conversations he couldn't inform me as to why he "doesn't highly rate" Industry 9 hubs, prefers building with generic/Chinese products, and muses about random poetic characteristics- all factors which make me not give two ****s about the review since it was plugged by a brand that Stinner/Joes spec.

[MaraudingWalrus]

Originally Posted by KWalker

prefers building with generic/Chinese products,

Depending on the reasoning, may be perfectly defensible position.

If he's found product he feels to be equivalent at a better value, then it's a totally reasonable conclusion at which to come.

As for poetic dissertations, perhaps he's found that there's already enough technical jargon out there. Maybe that's the niche that makes sense for his business or sensibility.

[KWalker]

Ya- he has no quantifiable evidence of any sort so he uses romantic language to sell products that can't even be backed up by any sort of psuedoscience, ethos, or data of any sort. Local bros who want to support the scene and/or feel better about their purchase praise it, of course, and it creates a cycle of approval that interweaves social approval and nothingness with actual outputs. In most industries people wouldn't buy into it at full force as they do with cycling and since the Team Dream/Radavist hype machine helps propagate this kind of product marketing it just inflates from there.