Why all the love for Look 585 bikes?

[beeatnik]

Originally Posted by travis bickle

There seems to be a lot of love for Look 585 bikes on this and other forums. I don't understand what makes them special. I own one and I am not bitten by the love bug. I like the bike but it isn't special to me. Any Look 585 owners out there that feel the love?

Could be a fit issue?

[travis bickle]

I had one aluminum road bike and one aluminum mountain bike. Both are gone. I don't care at all for aluminum. I have owned a couple of early '70s steel bikes as an adult. Two Raleigh Grand Sports and a Centurion Super LeMans. The Look 585 is the only carbon I have owned. I have had a couple bikes with carbon forks.

Originally Posted by rustychisel

Done much riding on aluminium bikes? Other carbon? Old steel (I mean real old steel, one of my favourite rides was welded in 1964)? It's waaaay different from a 2005 steel bike (in terms of tube diameter, construction methods etc).

[saab2000]

Originally Posted by travis bickle

I had one aluminum road bike and one aluminum mountain bike. Both are gone. I don't care at all for aluminum. I have owned a couple of early '70s steel bikes as an adult. Two Raleigh Grand Sports and a Centurion Super LeMans. The Look 585 is the only carbon I have owned. I have had a couple bikes with carbon forks.

It's OK. Not everyone likes every bike. I once had a Ti bike that I would place near the bottom (or at the bottom) of the higher end bikes I have ever owned. I wanted to love it but it was awful and I never missed it after I sold it.

Ride what inspires you and what you enjoy. Don't worry about what others like unless you like it as well.

I've been on the Look bandwagon for literally nearly 30 years since I first rode one. But not everyone has to like everything.

Variety is good.

[buldogge]

IMHO (and IME) the Look 585 is the perfect carbon complement to steel bike ownership.

My 2c.

-Mark in St. Louis

Originally Posted by travis bickle

Thanks for the feedback. Maybe the lack of the wow factor of the Look 585 has to do with the fact that all my other bikes are steel which in my mind can't be beat. Here is my list:
92 Colnago Master PIU, 85 Fuso, 92 Bridgestone RB-1, 87 Centurion Ironman, 83 Pinarello Record, 92 Tommaso TSX, 92 Merckx MX Leader, 90 Serotta Colorado II, 99 Tommasini Sintesi, 90 Pinarello Montello, 89 Tommasini Super Prestige, 02 LeMond Maillot Jaune, Simoncini Special Professional, Unknown builder

[veggieburger]

Originally Posted by travis bickle

Thanks for the feedback. Maybe the lack of the wow factor of the Look 585 has to do with the fact that all my other bikes are steel which in my mind can't be beat. Here is my list:
92 Colnago Master PIU, 85 Fuso, 92 Bridgestone RB-1, 87 Centurion Ironman, 83 Pinarello Record, 92 Tommaso TSX, 92 Merckx MX Leader, 90 Serotta Colorado II, 99 Tommasini Sintesi, 90 Pinarello Montello, 89 Tommasini Super Prestige, 02 LeMond Maillot Jaune, Simoncini Special Professional, Unknown builder

Wow, nice collection! Upon consideration of your stable, I think that junky old Look (58cm, approx?) will simply dull your love of cycling and should probably be given to your good friend Veggieburger...it's for your own good...

[rallizes]

Originally Posted by beeatnik

Could be a fit issue?

That's what I'm wondering

[jmikeq]

I loved mine, perfect fit for me. But I've moved on to something that would fit fatter tires.i

[travis bickle]

I am 6'3" tall. The bike is an XXL. I have everything setup to match the measurements of my other bikes.

Originally Posted by beeatnik

Could be a fit issue?

[beeatnik]

Originally Posted by travis bickle

I am 6'3" tall. The bike is an XXL. I have everything setup to match the measurements of my other bikes.

That may be it right there. 585 came in only 6 sizes?

[saab2000]

Originally Posted by beeatnik

That may be it right there. 585 came in only 6 sizes?

This was an unfortunate reality.

Before I got into 585s I owned a 381. It was also a great bike but a bit less stiff and had a proprietary seatpost clamp design that wasn't going to live forever, so I moved on. The sizing of the 585 was never my favorite thing.

Realistically I'm probably somewhere between the L and the XL. I make do with the XL and it's great but really there ought to be more than 6 sizes.

The 381/481 had like 14 different sizes.

This is my old 56 CM KG381. The 381/481 came in many sizes at 1 CM increments.

Honestly, I sort of wish I still had it, but ya can't keep 'em all!

[beeatnik]

^Legit

[bshell]

If anybody has an extra large Ultra F/F/HS in great shape that they are sick of I might be able to help.