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11-20-2014, 09:57 AM
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If you can't make it to the gym, drink some wine.
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11-20-2014, 10:03 AM
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That's an old article, from September. Since then, scientific studies have shown that wine's risks outweigh its benefits.
 http://www.bonappetit.com/trends/art...-the-millennia "So where does that leave us? Pretty much where we started, sorry. No matter how much wine or ink or resveratrol has been spilled on the subject over the past few decades, no one really knows if wine is a super-drug that keeps Mediterranean people alive for centuries or a poison that’s slowly rotting us away from within. If someone comes up with a miracle anti-aging drug, you’ll probably hear about it, but until then, feel free to ignore the wine science. As with most things food, you’ll probably be fine if you drink in moderation, drink mostly with meals, and, most importantly, enjoy yourself while you’re doing it. Because according to science, being happy makes you 60 percent less likely to die young!"
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It don't mean a thing, if it ain't got that certain je ne sais quoi. --Peter Schickele
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11-20-2014, 10:44 AM
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 wow.I've heard of people not enjoying wine.... but this is the first time I've heard such a strong reaction. Don't like the taste? the sulfates? the culture/snobbery? I'm just curious. Red and white? I can think of a heck of a lot of stuff that I don't like, but that I would *still* rather drink than eating my own shorts. 
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11-20-2014, 10:49 AM
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"red" get it?
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11-20-2014, 10:53 AM
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11-20-2014, 10:58 AM
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11-20-2014, 12:48 PM
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 I organize a bike tour of wineries every year for the PNW with about 15-20 people. Over the course of the past 5 years I've been learning more about what is available, and what my wife and I like. Wines in WA that I think are good, and a good value, include Kontos from Walla Walla, NorthStar from Walla Walla, Owen Roe in Yakima, Wineglass Cellar in Yakima, and Willakenzie in the Willamette Valley of OR.
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11-20-2014, 12:50 PM
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Wine, booze, beer I like 'em all. I'm not too snobby about beer just that nothing with the word "Lite" in it will ever touch my lips, and some of the micro brew stuff is tasty but I don't out of my way or my budget to enjoy beer (besides it's more fattening than the other two).
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11-20-2014, 12:59 PM
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Here's to you Pete! Couldn't have said it any better!
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11-20-2014, 01:48 PM
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I used to drink more beer than I do now but I am really happy at the current availability of good beer in most parts of the USA and especially in San Diego and other hotbeds of micro-brewing. IPA is one of my favorites. Generally most NEW wine-drinkers prefer whites (try a New Zealand Sauvignon Blanc) and ease into reds with fruitier, less tannic reds like real Beaujolais, pinot noir, or lighter (not pink) zinfandels. Highly rated Cabernets/Bordeaux can be too tannic for newbies, especially when not paired with appropriate food. Keep trying, you have lots of exciting exploration ahead.
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11-20-2014, 01:58 PM
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I'd love to read why beer is more fattening? Since most every beer has a different calorie/carb/sugar amount that's a pretty sweeping judgement. Some stouts have less than 100 calories per bottle and less than 10 carbs while others have more than most people care to know about. Is a port more fattening than a nice pinot noir? edit: IPA is also one of my favorites. I love trying all the new beers and luckily have a passionate shop a few minutes away that love to crack open some goodies when I swing through. Last week it was a Black Ops from brooklyn brewery. 3 of us drank the entire 750ml.
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