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Old 03-06-2017, 12:25 AM
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indeed.
AND all orders are 100% prepay.

Won't be getting one of these very soon, unfortunately.
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Old 03-06-2017, 12:35 AM
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What a crock. At those prices in to limit me to one or two color choices? No head tube extensions? Reserves the right to reject the fitter's spec?

That's insane. To top it all off we're stuck with SRAM Etap? Please!

Kelly Bedford, Dave Kirk and especially Dario must be laughing their asses off.

Tell us, Ben, what's so special about this bike other compared to any of the old rigs on eBay?
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Old 03-06-2017, 04:45 AM
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FWW RB $10,000
FWW DB $10,500
BSB RB $13,000
BSB DB $13,500

x2..Make a few and charge a bunch..he'll sell them tho. Taking away group, etc..what a $8000 steel frame and fork??

I don't think Kelly, Dario are laughing but kinda shaking their head. Maybe they need to write a touchy-feely blog..use Italian names..then put sram on it(???)..type stuff. yikes.
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Old 03-06-2017, 04:55 AM
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FWW RB $10,000
FWW DB $10,500
BSB RB $13,000
BSB DB $13,500


LOL!!!!

Actually it´s embarrassing since you can buy a better carbon bike at half the price.

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Old 03-06-2017, 06:08 AM
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I've loved my Serotta bicycles, and still ride them regularly.
Been a big fan of the company too.
I think the number of these bikes that will sell at full retail is zero.
They may get a few out on the road at a discount to friends and family as they launch. But I think the market they are targeting disappeared 10 years ago.
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Old 03-06-2017, 06:13 AM
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LOL!!!!

Actually it´s embarrassing since you can buy a better carbon bike at half the price.
For the record Im certainly not going to buy one but..
Define better? and should carbon be more expensive, Why?
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Old 03-06-2017, 06:46 AM
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For the record Im certainly not going to buy one but..
Define better? and should carbon be more expensive, Why?
Better: Pinarello Dogma.

Better: usually it´s more expensive.
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Old 03-06-2017, 06:59 AM
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Better: Pinarello Dogma.

Better: usually it´s more expensive.
Subjective and that dogma with wireless etap hydro discs and zipp 202 would certainly not be half price.


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Old 03-06-2017, 07:02 AM
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Subjective and that dogma with wireless etap hydro discs and zipp 202 would be more expensive, not less. Certainly not half price.
I have to agree here. Different strokes for different folks. I absolutely loved my Serotta bikes and I'd rather have one of these than a dogma. I'd never pay what either would cost though.
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Old 03-06-2017, 07:11 AM
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Subjective and that dogma with wireless etap hydro discs and zipp 202 would certainly not be half price.
If it´s all subjective than i declare any Surly is better than any Serotta. Because i love my Surly.

And those new Serottas look like a 2k frame and fork. Looks are subjective too... not the Look bikes, those are objectively great racing bikes.

Just ask those who have ridden a Dogma and many other high end frames.
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Old 03-06-2017, 07:20 AM
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If it´s all subjective than i declare any Surly is better than any Serotta. Because i love my Surly.

And those new Serottas look like a 2k frame and fork. Looks are subjective too... not the Look bikes, those are objectively great racing bikes.

Just ask those who have ridden a Dogma and many other high end frames.
I'm sure that the dogma is a top level fantastic bike for those looking for that type of bike. Serotta steel bicycles are hard to beat though. I've owned plenty of bikes and still have a surly and a couple of Serotta bicycles as well as others. Ben may be out of touch with his pricing, but he still makes and developed some of the finest bikes ever made imho. It doesn't mean that it's for everyone, but the same goes for the dogma
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Old 03-06-2017, 07:23 AM
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If it´s all subjective than i declare any Surly is better than any Serotta. Because i love my Surly.

And those new Serottas look like a 2k frame and fork. Looks are subjective too... not the Look bikes, those are objectively great racing bikes.

Just ask those who have ridden a Dogma and many other high end frames.
I have ridden lots of high end frames, probably more than most.

And if you think your surly is better for you then bike x then probably it is for you. Personally i dont care much for surlys.
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Old 03-06-2017, 07:27 AM
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I have ridden lots of high end frames, probably more than most.

And if you think your surly is better for you then bike x then probably it is for you. Personally i dont care much for surlys.
Neither do I. I don´t even have a Surly. It was just to show subjectivity has it´s limits.
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Old 03-06-2017, 07:49 AM
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Neither do I. I don´t even have a Surly. It was just to show subjectivity has it´s limits.
Is it that hard for you to believe that a Ferrari is not the best option for all ppl trying to buy a new car to drive to work? or for their weekend get aways?

Is it impossible that an m3, bentley or even a Morris mini is for some a better and more appealing option?
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Old 03-06-2017, 07:54 AM
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Pricing

FWW RB $10,000
FWW DB $10,500
BSB RB $13,000
BSB DB $13,500

For a complete bike.
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