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Old 02-23-2017, 11:30 AM
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Maybe it was a rear and the motor kept running??
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Old 02-23-2017, 11:32 AM
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Maybe it was a rear and the motor kept running??
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Old 02-23-2017, 11:32 AM
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I'm trying to figure out how he got the inside of his left shoe into the rotor of another riders bike... Interesting gymnastics...

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Old 02-23-2017, 11:49 AM
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Let the excuses flow...the Disk Brake Immune System has been activated.
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Old 02-23-2017, 12:47 PM
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I think he's just pissed because he knows he can't get discs on a Pinarello

btw, I just watched two diff angles of the final 1km on Steephill.tv (http://www.steephill.tv/players/720/...021001&yr=2017) and (http://www.steephill.tv/players/720/...312001&yr=2017)

Doull got tangled up with another rider (Movistar?) and they went into the barriers....they fell to the left, and it looks like one of their bikes kicked back right and took down Kittel and the Giant rider next to him, as they both went down at the same time.

It's not clear from the video that Doull ever contacted Kittel, but he did hit the pavement and the metal barriers hard before Kittel went down and they wound up on the ground in different spots....not with Doull tangled up in Kittel's wheel or something that clearly shows bike-on-shoe contact.

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Old 02-23-2017, 01:08 PM
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I call foul. This is as much BS as Ventoso's claim. He should at least have cut up his right shoe so he could explain how his shoe ended up in a rotor on the left side of a bike. Think about it.

Furthermore, the lower mark on the shoe shows a general rub area, a wider cut below it, and a razor cut above. The rub area is hard to understand, even if he was riding backwards down the course and collided with the one rider who happened to be using disc rotors. What would make that rub in line with the rotor? I'm not sure. The wider cut below the rub just might be a rotor, but those were supposedly rounded off and even if not, this isn't a meat slicer. The orientation will be changing as riders are crashing so I'd expect to see some scraping across the shoe and at most a very jagged cut. Not this. As for the cut above? That looks like a utility knife cut. It's not wide enough to get a rotor in there. BS. I'm not sure what the agenda is, but this is as fake as Ventoso's accusations were.
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Old 02-23-2017, 01:22 PM
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Exactly what i was saying...

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I call foul. This is as much BS as Ventoso's claim. He should at least have cut up his right shoe so he could explain how his shoe ended up in a rotor on the left side of a bike. Think about it.

Furthermore, the lower mark on the shoe shows a general rub area, a wider cut below it, and a razor cut above. The rub area is hard to understand, even if he was riding backwards down the course and collided with the one rider who happened to be using disc rotors. What would make that rub in line with the rotor? I'm not sure. The wider cut below the rub just might be a rotor, but those were supposedly rounded off and even if not, this isn't a meat slicer. The orientation will be changing as riders are crashing so I'd expect to see some scraping across the shoe and at most a very jagged cut. Not this. As for the cut above? That looks like a utility knife cut. It's not wide enough to get a rotor in there. BS. I'm not sure what the agenda is, but this is as fake as Ventoso's accusations were.
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Old 02-23-2017, 04:58 PM
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I think this is reasonably solid evidence ...

http://www.velonews.com/2017/02/vide...lly-cut_431182

Pretty clear that those rounded rotors are unlikely to be the culprit here.
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Old 02-23-2017, 05:17 PM
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I rode into the barrier and looked (was) stupid. Better CMA by blaming the disc bike...
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Old 02-23-2017, 05:45 PM
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I think this is reasonably solid evidence ...

http://www.velonews.com/2017/02/vide...lly-cut_431182

Pretty clear that those rounded rotors are unlikely to be the culprit here.
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Old 02-23-2017, 05:49 PM
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Fake news
In all fairness, what isn't, these days
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Old 02-23-2017, 05:53 PM
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In all fairness, what isn't, these days
I'm trying to keep it to a debunking of blatant misinformation.
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Old 02-23-2017, 05:53 PM
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Old 02-23-2017, 07:28 PM
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IMO there's a lot of difference in that test video turning the disc and going with the other surface perpendiculary than going in an angle, the other thing is that is different a disc rotating than hitting you straight and with an angle, no matter if the edge is rounded or not. So many scenarios IMO that is a really hard to know if this dude really got the cut due to the disc because well could be even not the disc but the caliper since is protruding off the frame or even a quick release axle tip.

Or even bad luck and hit something like a barriers hardware or pieces of wood, u go figure, there's a video of this accident?
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Old 02-23-2017, 07:47 PM
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Video from a helicopter.

http://www.velonews.com/2017/02/news...t-didnt_431165
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