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Old 10-20-2014, 11:54 AM
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CX canti brakes

During post-race cleanup from my first CX event, I noticed two things:
1. Something is stripped in my EuroX cantis, so the post holding the pad can slip a little bit. Not terrible, but it's allowing the pad to slip slightly too low for the rim.

2. Sandy CX racing does a number on brake pads. Mine were already somewhat worn, so yesterday was a nail in a mostly-built coffin.


So, some questions to the group:
1. If I replace the brakes, what do people recommend for sheer stopping power in a canti brake? I hear Shorty Ultimates and Pauls (which ones?) a lot. They're pricey, but if they really work better it may be worth the spend.

2. I'll be getting my go-to aluminum rim pad (Swissstop BXP, the blue ones). They have a new "evo" design out that supposedly sheds water better. Anyone try it yet?
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Old 10-20-2014, 11:58 AM
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I use Kool-Stop Thinlines in the salmon color atmo.

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Old 10-20-2014, 12:34 PM
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Plus one on the salmon pads.

I hate sand and curse organizers for putting it in the race. Yes sure it's quirky, challenging, different and ever so popular but mostly just fun for spectators and it's a nightmare for your drive train.

I just make a point of running sand now, it's almost always just as fast anyway and then my bike isn't ruined
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Old 10-20-2014, 12:39 PM
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Depends on the sand but yeah yesterday the guys here that were running the sand were probably quicker than the guys riding it.
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Old 10-20-2014, 12:48 PM
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"Sheer stopping power" and "canti brake" don't really go to well together. Some are better than others, but cantis are always going to be on the low end of the spectrum for sheer stopping power.

If you lack for power with your EuroX, it's time for a narrow-profile canti brake instead of a wide-set one. Even simple, cheap ones like Avid Shorty 4 or 6 can be set up to be reasonably strong. You can spend twenty bucks on those, or two hundred bucks on a nice piece like the TRP RevoX, and probably get pretty similar braking power. The Ultimates' value lies in their switchability between narrow and wide profile. The Shimano CR70 has been getting nice reviews.
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Old 10-20-2014, 12:57 PM
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TRP Revo X!

Best canti's I've ever used. I've owned Euro-X's and they don't come close to the Revo's. Paul's minimoto's are good but don't modulate much IMO. Shorty's work well but they're not the Revo's. I rode discs last season and went back Revo's this season and I don't miss the discs at all.
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Old 10-20-2014, 01:43 PM
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Salmon koolstops for are

I'm running some campy cx brakes, they are great.
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Old 10-20-2014, 01:43 PM
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Avid Shorties and Kool Stop Salmon Pads

Best of both worlds: e-RICHIE's Kool Stop salmon pads and nooneline's Avid Shorties. I use this combination and find them both cheap and effective for nearly all 'cross conditions.

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Old 10-20-2014, 02:07 PM
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"Sheer stopping power" and "canti brake" don't really go to well together. Some are better than others, but cantis are always going to be on the low end of the spectrum for sheer stopping power.

If you lack for power with your EuroX, it's time for a narrow-profile canti brake instead of a wide-set one. Even simple, cheap ones like Avid Shorty 4 or 6 can be set up to be reasonably strong. You can spend twenty bucks on those, or two hundred bucks on a nice piece like the TRP RevoX, and probably get pretty similar braking power. The Ultimates' value lies in their switchability between narrow and wide profile. The Shimano CR70 has been getting nice reviews.
I thought wide-set brakes carried more power. Wide angle = more leverage = more stopping power?? Maybe I've got my geometry off.

I like the simplicity of canti brakes, and that's what the frameset is built for, so I'm sticking with them.
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Old 10-20-2014, 02:14 PM
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I really like RevoX. I changed from euroXs because I could not get enough power. Also I like how the revoXs have a vertical slot to move post holder.

The cane creeks that e-Richie uses look like they could be setup to be pretty powerful and Tektro Oryx which are very cheap appear to be basically the same design.

Kool Stop salmons are always a good idea in my book. The stock TRP pads stop decently but are a little bit spongy feeling. I just like a firmer feel.
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Old 10-20-2014, 02:55 PM
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It's cyclocross - touch the brakes lightly and you will go faster.
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Old 10-20-2014, 02:59 PM
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Narrow profile = more power. It has to do with the geometry between the lever arm and the cable. Sheldon Brown has a great description of it here:

http://sheldonbrown.com/cantilever-geometry.html
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Old 10-20-2014, 03:55 PM
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For sheer stopping power in a cantilever brake I'd suggest buying mini V brakes and depositing the cantilevers in the nearest trash receptacle
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Old 10-20-2014, 05:12 PM
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Anybody have feedback on the Ciamillo canttis? They look good..
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Old 10-20-2014, 06:55 PM
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Anybody have feedback on the Ciamillo canttis? They look good..

They look great in pictures. Then you try to buy them and 2 months later you're back here starting a thread about how he took your money and still hasn't shipped anything.
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