Mavic Road UST

[mcteague]

Looks like Mavic is getting serious about tubeless road. Looks interesting. I wonder if all the other manufacturers would get on-board. Seems like a big ask to me.

https://cyclingtips.com/2017/06/mavi...specs-weights/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALVtgcY1YeM

Tim

[mcteague]

No posts at all? At least there appears to be some interest across the hall.

https://www.velocipedesalon.com/foru...els-47643.html

Tim

[kookmyers]

I was hoping for more action in this thread as well. I am highly interested.

[old fat man]

Originally Posted by mcteague

Looks like Mavic is getting serious about tubeless road. Looks interesting. I wonder if all the other manufacturers would get on-board. Seems like a big ask to me.

https://cyclingtips.com/2017/06/mavi...specs-weights/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALVtgcY1YeM

Tim

It's another proprietary system and will not gain adopters. All the other brands except Continental already got on board with existing systems.

They failed with UST for mtb, this will fail too

[R3awak3n]

So you need mavic tires for this to work so well?
Its very cool that it works so well but manufacturers are not going to want to charge their existing molds to this even if they could license this system. They are too late to the party. Its unfortunate because it does look like a very nice, very easy system.

I never used road tubeless but I really like tubeless. That said it can be a pita to install and specially with a normal pump.

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by old fat man

It's another proprietary system and will not gain adopters. All the other brands except Continental already got on board with existing systems.

They failed with UST for mtb, this will fail too

Yee GADS..why can't the goofy bike biz standardize anything?? BBs, disc brakes, now tires..it's NUTZ!!

[bicycletricycle]

The ability to consistently mount a tire without mangling ones fingers is a big advantage. It has a big battle to fight but i think it might have a chance. Seeing the GCN dude mount tires easily was enough for me to consider trying them out, and I HATE tubeless tires! (mostly because of the mounting difficulties.)

I can imagine this same demo really helping turn heads at point of sale.

Who is making the mavic tires?

[zzy]

For the last decade, Mavic has been consistently late to adopt every wheel trend, and when they do release an option it is always overpriced. From refusing to make wider rims, to building a freehub whose pawls don't easily fail, to making silly tires no one wants, to ditching the whole rim business to focus on prebuilts. The idea that current tubeless solutions are too difficult to use is laughable. Just another solution looking for a problem. I won't even start on Mavic's warranty process..

[R3awak3n]

how are they still one of the biggest cycling companies? I feel like I dunno anyone that buys mavic stuff. I think buying enve was pretty damn smart though

[ColonelJLloyd]

I guess this has the ear of people who ride 23-28mm tires and want tubeless tires at high pressures.

Maybe I'm lucky, but I haven't had a lick of trouble with my own tubeless setups. Granted, all have been with tires 42mm or wider. All those rims and tires presumably adhere to the ERTRO standard. Whatever the reason all of it "just works" for me thus far. I'll say this, my tubeless setups hold pressure longer than any tube ever has for me.

[R3awak3n]

Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd

I guess this has the ear of people who ride 23-28mm tires and want tubeless tires at high pressures.

Maybe I'm lucky, but I haven't had a lick of trouble with my own tubeless setups. Granted, all have been with tires 42mm or wider. All those rims and tires presumably adhere to the ERTRO standard. Whatever the reason all of it "just works" for me thus far. I'll say this, my tubeless setups hold pressure longer than any tube ever has for me.

Never had trouble mounting tubeless tires either, its almost easier since there is no tube in there getting in the way.

[tuscanyswe]

Originally Posted by R3awak3n

how are they still one of the biggest cycling companies? I feel like I dunno anyone that buys mavic stuff. I think buying enve was pretty damn smart though

I see countless bikes with mavic wheels. the yellow mavic shoes are everywhere. Id say i see as much mavic as i see of anything else if not more.

[93KgBike]

I saw this on GCN and it sounds like the death of wheel building for many disciplines. But it looks awesome and I am filled with desire for a set of Ksyriums and tires. If I can get my ftp up 15% this year, then I need them, don't I?

[93KgBike]

Originally Posted by R3awak3n

how are they still one of the biggest cycling companies? I feel like I dunno anyone that buys mavic stuff. I think buying enve was pretty damn smart though

Enve probably paid them patent fees just to get outta bed in the AM. Seriously though, Mavic is like the Bell Labs of cycling. I think if you buy a retail race bike in N.A. or the E.U., good chance you are buying some Mavic stuff, or stuff using their patents.

[93KgBike]

Originally Posted by bicycletricycle

Who is making the mavic tires?

Mavic is making the the whole thing as a set package; wheels and tires together. They have specifically tried to normalize the tolerances for the match of tire
to rim.