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Funny how his shoe was so close to the spokes but didn't get chopped up.
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Looking at this from 10,000 ft, it would seem that while there appears to be a chance that riders can be hurt by disc brakes, it would also be the likelihood that disc brake effectiveness could generally improve safety in the peloton, on downhills, in wet weather at the least. So, the question becomes, what is the incidence of each? What is the tolerance for the increased incidence (presumed) of injury from disc brakes, in the face of a decrease in injury from falls on downhills, particularly wet ones?
In WW1, there was a standardization and improvement of helmet design. One effect was that there was a substantial increase in hospitalization for head injuries. Some generals complained! But the reason there were so many more head injuries was that soldiers were surviving. They didn't just die. The helmets worked. The whole exercise was an improvement. It just took a while for people to realize that was the case. I actually don't like discs on my bikes, because they seem to require more attention to maintain tolerances, and my requirements are no longer race level. I love the minimotos on my new Eriksen. But in the pro peloton, they've got wrenches checking brakes every day. I will wait to see what the balance of favorable and unfavorable settles on over a reasonable time period. That will determine whether discs are accepted for the long term by the pros. |
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Better test would be to have a rider pedaling a bike on a trainer, and pressing the shoes and saddle into the rotor as he continues to pedal. Probably have the same results.
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What you get for not having custom carbon shoes.
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I have a seriously hard time buying this. IMO the overhead footage shows that he and the rotors in question are going in pretty different directions after he initiated the crash.
The evidence after the fact on his shoe is interesting, I'll give him that, but one could argue he clipped some sharp edge of the barrier that he plowed into, perhaps an exposed screw or nail, or just a thin hard edge of metal rather than a red hot spinning blade of death. I also find it interesting that some anti-disc pros are quick to jump on any possible injury that could be related to a disc brake and blast the propaganda. How many injuries or equipment damage like this happens in the non-disc peloton that we never hear about, its just "what happens in a crash"? I don't know the answer to that, but in some ways I feel like the apparent short fuse to blame discs in a crash is in a way, some riders way of rebelling against their integration into road racing. |
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A lot of unanticipated and unintuitive things happen during a real crash because of the tremendous forces involved. Who could guess handlebar end plugs exist for one purpose: to keep the handlebar from punching a hole in you during a crash. If one had never seen a handlebar injury before it would be very difficult to even imagine, let alone duplicate it on a test bench. If only all bicycle crashes were as gentle as what is shown in that video. Last edited by dgauthier; 02-24-2017 at 06:24 AM. |
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http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/marc...abu-dhabi-tour and http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/chri...ot-being-heard wonder if it's more about 'being heard' than disc brakes..
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Plus with the motor, it just spins like a meat saw.
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As long as sponsors are paying I doubt thie equipment will be off. The cutting issue is still at debate till real probes comes up (if there's any already), but the second big problems with disc is going to start now, which for me is a lot more easy to spot on and maybe even more important.
In the classics a slow change of wheel can get a rider off the race quite quick, and Im just waiting to see what is going to happen in the next weekends. Just one or two fav with discs losing a race due to a wheel change and I doubt we wlll see discs too often this season. |
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I'll armchair here too! Put on the tin foil hat.
""That’s why the crash happened, because we got stuck with our handlebars," Kittel said." Well that doesn't seem correct. Watch this At 0:26, you see Kittel push/elbow/whatever you want to call it Owain, who gets pushed into Ewen who goes into the barrier legs, Per the steephill video, Owain doesn't unlclip into Kittel's bike. His left foot never crosses his bike as he is falling TO HIS LEFT. What we do see in the linked video is a sharp metallic object that has rust; the barrier feet. So in summary I believe that Kittel was at least partially to blame for his own accident and Owain's shoe got cut by the rusty barrier. |
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