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Old 03-13-2016, 08:01 AM
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Yes sir! Between the HED and the 2 Pacentis that I already built, I got some quality hoops to last me a while. But now the problem is I am addicted to wheel building, what should I do??? Start building for friends and family?

Thanks again to you and Old pal for being my wheel-building mentors...I am indebted to y'all.
That's how it all started for me. I've got a replacement rim for a pair of Cosmos coming, 2 Open Pro tubulars, and need a pair of 20/24 rims to go with the DT Swiss 240s in the garage...

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Old 03-13-2016, 08:18 AM
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That's how it all started for me. I've got a replacement rim for a pair of Cosmos coming, 2 Open Pro tubulars, and need a pair of 20/24 rims to go with the DT Swiss 240s in the garage...

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Velocity rims? I can get(you can too, right?).
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Old 03-13-2016, 08:43 AM
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Curious as to why there is no mention of DT 15/16/15 spokes?
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Old 03-13-2016, 10:19 AM
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Curious as to why there is no mention of DT 15/16/15 spokes?
Cuz they are really hard/impossible to find. I guess there are sites that sell them but overall, I think 14/15 are better 'all around'.
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Old 03-13-2016, 03:21 PM
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Velocity rims? I can get(you can too, right?).
Yeah, I can get em too.

I have a pair of Cosmos that are 11sp compatible, so I'm gonna re-lace the bent rear rim with another black Mavic rim.

I'd rather have Reflex Ceramics, but I'll have to make do with the regular Open Pro tubulars (aka Reflexes)

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Old 03-14-2016, 09:55 AM
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Curious as to why there is no mention of DT 15/16/15 spokes?
1.8mm/1.6mm/1.8mm (15ga/16ga/15ga) spokes make sense for wheels with lots of spokes (32+). With these wheels, the lack of stiffness of individual thin spokes is made up for by having lots of spokes, and the lower average spoke tension prevents the wind-up issues that happen with super-butted (2.0/1.5/2.0) spokes.

Decades ago, most wheels were made with 32 or 36 spokes, and occasionally 40+ spokes, and 1.8/1.6/1.8 worked well with these wheels. Today, most wheels have fewer spokes (20, 24 & 28 are common), so there isn't much demand for 1.8/1.6/1.8 spokes.
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Old 03-14-2016, 05:11 PM
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Old 03-14-2016, 05:13 PM
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How ya going to secure those thread into the rim, spokes onto that hub? Or, with j bend, secure those to the rim, need mavic tread-in nipples??
Old pal...you don't really wanna know...

Let me "do it" first and then show you.
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Old 03-14-2016, 07:42 PM
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Old 03-15-2016, 05:14 AM
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3 down, one more to go.
Ya could've done the 24h, 1 cross, all spokes head in..for grins.

Can't wait to see the ksyrium to standard hub one.
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Old 03-18-2016, 05:46 AM
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Can't wait to see the ksyrium to standard hub one.
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Old 03-18-2016, 05:48 AM
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Old 03-18-2016, 05:49 AM
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So, you drilled out the integrated threaded inserts in the rim?
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Old 03-18-2016, 05:54 AM
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So, you drilled out the integrated threaded inserts in the rim?
No, I drilled holes from the top so I can insert nipples. And then I used stainless steel washer between nipples and the inserts to create barrier and increase strength. Managed to get the spoke tension up to 100-110 without any issue, probably can go higher but why push it. :-)

Obviously, this is a "fun test". It's more work than I like. I will doing a road test in just a bit.
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Old 03-18-2016, 05:56 AM
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No, I drilled holes from the top so I can insert nipples. And then I used stainless steel washer between nipples and the inserts to create barrier and increase strength. Managed to get the spoke tension up to 100-110 without any issue, probably can go higher but why push it. :-)

Obviously, this is a "fun test". It's more work than I like. I will doing a road test in just a bit.
I agree..but if the stuff was essentially free...
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