Campy freehub for 11 sp Shimano/SRAM?

[bluesea]

Did Campy come out with a new free hub for Shimano/SRAM 11 sp, that is different from the older Campy 11 sp freehub?

I may want one for both black Record and Neutron hubs. Do they both use the same freehubs?

[buldogge]

The one that works for 11s will have the lobed axle free hub body. The older round axle FHB will fit...but...will only be 9/10s.

The Campy spline FHBs will both do 11, of course, and the round lobed FHB will fit both axles, but not vice versa.

Both hubs use the same FHB type...round or lobed axle will depend on year, though.

-Mark in St. Louis

Originally Posted by bluesea

Did Campy come out with a new free hub for Shimano/SRAM 11 sp, that is different from the older Campy 11 sp freehub?

I may want one for both black Record and Neutron hubs. Do they both use the same freehubs?

[bluesea]

Thanks Mark. I guess it would be simpler to use campy cassettes throughout.

[ultraman6970]

Would not surprise me that the 11 shimano will work just fine with an 11 campagnolo wheel and cassette tho.

[bluesea]

Originally Posted by ultraman6970

Would not surprise me that the 11 shimano will work just fine with an 11 campagnolo wheel and cassette tho.

I may try it out.

[ultraman6970]

The spacing cant be that far out. Actually to me, shimano went with that weird 2 extra mm hubs because if they space the 10 hubs for 11 they were going to get probably with the same space numbers campagnolo was using already, you have to be different in a really strangely way. Even that way from what I read 11 in one wheel or the other is just way too close for some to even notice a difference.

[buldogge]

Ohhh…Shimano 11 works just fine with Campy 11. I picked up a HED (R.I.P.) wheelset with Shimano FHB and ended up just buying an Ultegra cassette…runs fine with the otherwise Athena 11 gruppo on my Vittorio Strada MAX

-Mark

[ultraman6970]

Vittorio Strada MAX <-- I hate you! :P

Not even dutchs have those ones darn!

[thirdgenbird]

Originally Posted by buldogge

The one that works for 11s will have the lobed axle free hub body. The older round axle FHB will fit...but...will only be 9/10s.

The Campy spline FHBs will both do 11, of course, and the round lobed FHB will fit both axles, but not vice versa.

Both hubs use the same FHB type...round or lobed axle will depend on year, though.

-Mark in St. Louis

Per Campagnolo NA, you can also update old hubs to the lobed axle.

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by bluesea

Did Campy come out with a new free hub for Shimano/SRAM 11 sp, that is different from the older Campy 11 sp freehub?

I may want one for both black Record and Neutron hubs. Do they both use the same freehubs?

Yes, early on, I first saw them about 2 years ago. Both for aluminum axled hubs/wheels and steel axled hubs/wheels.

Yes, same FH body, part number FH-BUU015X1. And strangely enough, the HG(8/10 and 8/11) FH body fits onto the older, non lobed, axles. Newer, one piece Campagnolo FH bodies, do not.

[bluesea]

P.S. By lobed axle do you mean OS axle?

[thirdgenbird]

Originally Posted by bluesea

P.S. By lobed axle do you mean OS axle?

No, well sort of. The first OS axle was round and then it went to lobed.

You can't put a lobed freehub on a round axle, but you can put a lobed axle and freehub into the older hub. The shell and bearings kept the same spec.

The standard sized axle is a different topic.

[buldogge]

Except, apparently, according to Peter ^^^ the Campy Shimano 11s (lobed) FHB does fit the older round OS axle!

-Mark

Originally Posted by thirdgenbird

No, well sort of. The first OS axle was round and then it went to lobed.

You can't put a lobed freehub on a round axle, but you can put a lobed axle and freehub into the older hub. The shell and bearings kept the same spec.

The standard sized axle is a different topic.

[thirdgenbird]

Originally Posted by buldogge

Except, apparently, according to Peter ^^^ the Campy Shimano 11s (lobed) FHB does fit the older round OS axle!

-Mark

Correct. If you have a hub with the round axle, you need to upgrade the axle to the lobed version and then you can swap freehubs. It adds about $50 to the conversion cost but it updates the wheel to current production spec.

[buldogge]

Casey…read what Peter wrote…Shimano FHB fits without the axle swap.

In fact, now that I think about it, I think I sold jischr my Shim 11s FHB and he put it on an older round axle…

-Mark

Originally Posted by thirdgenbird

Correct. If you have a hub with the round axle, you need to upgrade the axle to the lobed version and then you can swap freehubs. It adds about $50 to the conversion cost but it updates the wheel to current production spec.