OT: CA drought

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by Mikej

I am amazed at the amount of California's water that is used in agriculture - at over 85%. The Imperial Valley has some legal rights that will be hard to change, but most of that water is Colorado river water. 10 gallons of water per walnut was a number I once read.

The Colorado river is expected to be about 80% of what it is now(and it's low now) in 10 years. Lots of evap due to higher temps. Add in a 'super drought', a drought lasting more than a decade..gonna get ugly. I wonder how bad it has to get before the US figures out a water grid and when desalination will be worth the $.

[classtimesailer]

Originally Posted by oldpotatoe

The Colorado river is expected to be about 80% of what it is now(and it's low now) in 10 years. Lots of evap due to higher temps. Add in a 'super drought', a drought lasting more than a decade..gonna get ugly. I wonder how bad it has to get before the US figures out a water grid and when desalination will be worth the $.

It might be more sensible to face Global Warming and stop fooling ourselves by calling it climate change.

[makoti]

Originally Posted by classtimesailer

It might be more sensible to face Global Warming and stop fooling ourselves by calling it climate change.

We call it climate change because a) it is more than simply the planet getting warmer, and b) call it global warming & some nitwit brings a snowball into congress to "prove" it's a hoax.

[Tony T]

Originally Posted by Clean39T

I will now utter the two most inflammatory words one can speak on the internet in response to questions of climate change and resource use: Go Vegan

[bobswire]

Originally Posted by makoti

We call it climate change because a) it is more than simply the planet getting warmer, and b) call it global warming & some nitwit brings a snowball into congress to "prove" it's a hoax.

Yep, and I'll leave it at that before being scolded for mentioning the Elephant in the room.

[Tony T]

Not sure what you mean. Elephant?

[OtayBW]

Originally Posted by classtimesailer

It might be more sensible to face Global Warming and stop fooling ourselves by calling it climate change.

Back in the 80s when this was first starting to get a foothold, it WAS called Global Warming, but there was such a ****storm about it that Global Climate Change became favored.

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[joosttx]

Originally Posted by Mikej

I am amazed at the amount of California's water that is used in agriculture - at over 85%. The Imperial Valley has some legal rights that will be hard to change, but most of that water is Colorado river water. 10 gallons of water per walnut was a number I once read.

Walnuts are not grown in the Imperial valley.

[joosttx]

Since we are talking about drought and agriculture. Here is a graph showing the effect of Midwest corn yields over time. In normal conditions (blue lines), we see a trend of increased yields over time. So, science is improving yields, getting more production from the land. But in drought conditions (red lines) we are not improving yields over time. In fact, we are decreasing yields. So, our plant breeding is not addressing drought. Not a good sign for a world facing global climate change.



I am developing a product which is a fungi that associates with the corn roots that 1) helps find water in the soil 2) helps store water for drought 3) changes the physiology of corn to better cope with drought. Below is a result of a field trial where we showed a 13.9-bushel/acre yield increase in corn subjected to drought.

[93legendti]

Originally Posted by OtayBW

Back in the 80s when this was first starting to get a foothold, it WAS called Global Warming, but there was such a ****storm about it that Global Climate Change became favored.

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And the 70's it was called Global Cooling. After a 16 yr (or is it now 17 yrs?) pause in warming temperatures they had to change the name again to "Climate Change" for the believers. I call it "Climate Confusion" because the climate won't cooperate with the "scientific predictions", so it must be confused...

[OtayBW]

Originally Posted by 93legendti

And the 70's it was called Global Cooling. After a 16 yr (or is it now 17 yrs?) pause in warming temperatures they had to change the name again to "Climate Change" for the believers. I call it "Climate Confusion" because the climate won't cooperate with the "scientific predictions", so it must be confused...

I really don't think so.

[93legendti]

I know so.

"The most meaningful aspect of the global warming pause isn’t that temperatures have flattened for 17 years, but rather that the global warming pause extends and solidifies the longer-term record of smaller-than-predicted global temperature rise."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesta.../#1a1385902fd2

https://news.google.com/newspapers?i...,2354081&hl=en

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-J42tQc488A...Big+Freeze.jpg

https://youtu.be/1kGB5MMIAVA

http://www.survivalpodcast.net/images/iceage.jpg

[OtayBW]

Originally Posted by joosttx

I am developing a product which is a fungi that associates with the corn roots that 1) helps find water in the soil 2) helps store water for drought 3) changes the physiology of corn to better cope with drought. Below is a result of a field trial where we showed a 13.9-bushel/acre yield increase in corn subjected to drought.

Mycorrhizae? Can you explain 'helps find water in the soil'? You mean makes available water outside of conventional measures of soil moisture availability - e.g., at <permanent wilting point?

[OtayBW]

Originally Posted by 93legendti

I do.

"The most meaningful aspect of the global warming pause isn’t that temperatures have flattened for 17 years, but rather that the global warming pause extends and solidifies the longer-term record of smaller-than-predicted global temperature rise."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesta.../#1a1385902fd2

https://news.google.com/newspapers?i...,2354081&hl=en

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-J42tQc488A...Big+Freeze.jpg

https://youtu.be/1kGB5MMIAVA

http://www.survivalpodcast.net/images/iceage.jpg

OK - great. Have fun with your links.

[93legendti]

Originally Posted by OtayBW

OK - great. Have fun with your links.

Read some...