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something is wrong, i just put 2016 chorus on my old csi and it shifts wonderfully and was one of the easiest installs i've ever done.
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These things are hand assembled, hard to see 'bad batch', IMHO
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Mebbe, Campy Chorus Revolution RD's are assembled in Romania. Don't have my box to confirm as I sold my gruppo.
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This is no disrespect to anyone on this forum but if Steve Hogg can't get it to work it doesn't work. He tried everything humanly possible. Took it apart, checked cables, cassette etc etc etc. I don't think it has ever worked properly.
Hope to have the new one fitted tomorrow. Cheers Hainy |
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Honest question - googled Steve Hogg and found a bunch of hits on a "Steve Hogg, master bike fitter"? Is there another Steve Hogg master bike mechanic or is this the same person?
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Can't he be both?
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Steve, Steve, he's our man, if he can't do if, no one can.
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Same Steve Hogg. He was mechanic for the pro teams in europe before he started a bike shop and then got into bike fitting. Have know him 30 years and never met anyone more knowledgeable about anything to do with a bike or fitting.
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How long are the chainstays on the bike you're using? If they are very short it can cause imprecise shifting like you're describing. Campy specs at least 405mm stays, some small frames don't meet this requirement. Some rear derailleur hangers can fall outside of campy's spec too.
You're falling to halo effect, just because Hogg is a good bike fitter and wrenched before doesn't mean he read Campy's latest tech specs. Edit: I stand corrected. Defer to Graeme. Last edited by Russian bear; 04-28-2016 at 02:03 AM. |
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From Graeme, Head Tech, Campagnolo main UK ASC Several things here from experience of building a large number of 2015 11s bikes and rectifying problems reported by customers. The short rear triangle of the C60 is not a big problem - it barely impacts on performance or noise so long as the FD set up is spot on. We've had 2015 Chorus working quite happily on TT frames with 395 mm rear ends ... Shift issues around the middle of the cassette are typically about H screw setting if everything else (including locking ring torque on the cassette) is correctly set. On 2015 groups, s little time spent balancing the H and B screw settings against each other plays handsome dividends, the object being to get the top jockey to track the profile of the cassette as accurately as possible. The more "free" chain there is from the point of release by the sprocket to the point of pick-up by the jockey wheel, the flaker the shifting will be. C60s are particularly troublesome because of the design of the rear dropout and we have even seen cases recently where we have had to change the H Screw drive ratchet to get acceptable performance. The twist on the RD cage has not changed since 2009 - we have seen one or two RDs where the cage does not appear to sit correctly on the lower knuckle, though. It's not clear what causes this and in these cases we have swapped the RD under warranty. We are awaiting the results of full analysis in the factory for the cause of this problem. On a very, very small number of RDs, we have seen the lower jockey fitted back to front from the factory and some end users are not aware that it is directional and so sometimes mis-assemble it if dropping the jockeys out to clean them ... so in a noisy transmission this is always worth a check. |
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Just an update. The shifter and Rd were replaced with no success. The only thing left is the frame but all looks fine. We will try a 10 speed groupset and if it does the same thing then it has to be the frame.
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10 speed will shift even if the rd hanger is not right but with 11 the RD hanger needs to be spot on. Picky stuff.
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Measure center of dropout to center of der hanger..just for grins. What frame again?
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