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Old 08-11-2017, 05:00 PM
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What is this K.Bedford worth?

A friend of mine had this made a couple of years ago (custom) and just had a baby which is forcing his hand to thin his heard. He offered it to me first and while the headtube is perfect, the top tube is almost a cm too short.

I'm trying to figure out how it'll ride with a 140.

Anyways, what's the frameset worth? Very minty, titanium frame, enve fork and full custom (for him).

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Old 08-11-2017, 05:25 PM
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Zilch to you. The fit isn't right (always a concern buying/selling a used custom frame).

A 140 stem? Not for me.

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Old 08-11-2017, 05:26 PM
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no idea what it's "worth" but that sure is a nice frame.
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Old 08-11-2017, 05:28 PM
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I just sold a stock-sized Vamoots frame/fork/headset and got 55% of retail MSRP. I sold a Seven Axiom and got around 45% of retail (maybe less, I can't remember). So for a full custom frame "sub 50% retail" seems to be a good ballpark.
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Old 08-11-2017, 05:45 PM
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Zilch to you. The fit isn't right (always a concern buying/selling a used custom frame).

A 140 stem? Not for me.

BK
i'm inclined to agree... but that frame is sweet. i'm sure it would find an owner here if you didn't want it.
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Old 08-11-2017, 05:57 PM
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Zilch to you. The fit isn't right (always a concern buying/selling a used custom frame).

A 140 stem? Not for me.

BK

Agree. That bike is just too small. There may be other areas that would be compromises also.

He should get a bike that fits, even if it's a $1k aluminum bike from Performance.
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Old 08-11-2017, 06:09 PM
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I just sold a stock-sized Vamoots frame/fork/headset and got 55% of retail MSRP. I sold a Seven Axiom and got around 45% of retail (maybe less, I can't remember). So for a full custom frame "sub 50% retail" seems to be a good ballpark.
I agree w/ above. Moots tends to command a higher price whereas others less. The issue comes about selling a custom build vs stock sizes. Sadly closer to 40% and perhaps lower.

I have a custom Ti frame (used to me) that is spot on with my custom SS frame - I got very lucky. But I doubt if I could get 1/3 of what it sold for new. If it was a stock size, in the 50% range.

Selling custom made frames gets tricky.
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Old 08-11-2017, 06:13 PM
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The bike is gorgeous, but being custom limits the marketability. How tall is your friend and how much does he weigh? What are the dimensions of the bike?
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Old 08-11-2017, 09:46 PM
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I don't know what it is worth but it looks like a ti bike with an enve fork.

I have a k. Bedford ti bike and it is super nice. Also have a k. Bedford steel bike that I like. No idea what the bikes are worth, but I like mine. If you like the bike and it fits you, could be a good deal.
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Old 08-11-2017, 09:58 PM
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One of the nicer looking Bedford's I've seen. Cool bike.

140 stem would look super pro.
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Old 08-11-2017, 10:36 PM
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Let your friend set the price. If you need to pay true, fair market, buy a bike from a stranger.
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Old 08-11-2017, 10:49 PM
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A friend of mine had this made a couple of years ago (custom) and just had a baby which is forcing his hand to thin his heard. He offered it to me first and while the headtube is perfect, the top tube is almost a cm too short.

I'm trying to figure out how it'll ride with a 140.

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1 cm is only about .4 inches so that is not far off. Different bars or shifters are going to make more difference than that. How are you figuring your 1 cm off? Are you comparing seat tube angles because different angles while change the effective top tube length?

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Old 08-11-2017, 11:27 PM
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1 cm is only about .4 inches so that is not far off. Different bars or shifters are going to make more difference than that. How are you figuring your 1 cm off? Are you comparing seat tube angles because different angles while change the effective top tube length?

Jeff
+1 I don't get how you can say the head tube is perfect, but the TT is short. These don't exist in a vacuum. And, as others have said, bars, stem angle, spacers, all that make the difference.

He's your friend. I'd let me friend put on his preferred seatpost, saddle, pedals and stem/spacers and ride it for a while. Start by comparing the contact points to your best fitting bike and go from there, right?

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Let your friend set the price. If you need to pay true, fair market, buy a bike from a stranger.
Agreed.
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Old 08-11-2017, 11:27 PM
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That's a great lo King Bedford! It's my size - buy it for me!
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Old 08-11-2017, 11:33 PM
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Sheesh, if it needs a home, im sure someone around here would help a brotha out.
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