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Old 08-11-2017, 06:42 AM
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the alloy, not the carbon if I'm understanding his post.
Understood. I guess one could have the same bike in two flavors, but I thought he wanted something different.
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Old 08-11-2017, 06:49 AM
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Get this:
http://www.feltbicycles.com/USA/2016...MESET-AR1.aspx

with a pair of used deep profile carbon tubulars and a group from the UK

or

Get this:

http://www.feltbicycles.com/USA/2016.../aero/AR5.aspx

and spend a few days on Weight Weenies to find the perfect Chinese-made, carbon clincher wheelset

http://weightweenies.starbike.com/fo...f=113&t=103936
Good choices if he wants a Propel-style aero frame. For a more TCX style racing frame, check out the FR3, if you can deal with the orange.
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Old 08-11-2017, 07:45 AM
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Focus Izalco Max is also a great option.
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Old 08-11-2017, 08:49 AM
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orbea orcas are wicked lots of bike for the money these days.
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Old 08-11-2017, 08:54 AM
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I'd look at a Scott Addict too.

Coupla my buddies have em and like em

Course, if you already have a 'road bike' I'd run you towards something different like a higher end/racier CX bike. Toss some aero wheels on it and ride it on the road. Toss some bigger tires on it and ride it off-road. Toss some tubulars on it and race CX. Win-win-win!

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Old 08-11-2017, 09:57 AM
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That's a good idea, I will have to find one locally to look at.

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How about a Ridley Fenix SL? I have an Excalibur that I just love. When I replace it, it will be with a Fenix.
I didn't care for that bike, it's a bit too much of an endurance geometry for what I'm looking for.

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how about cannondale EVO ultegra ?
Sorry, but the C'dale bikes just don't appeal to me.

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Understood. I guess one could have the same bike in two flavors, but I thought he wanted something different.
I don't want to duplicate what I have, but, if the new TCR turns out to be a good choice for my goals I'm not categorically opposed. I don't have a need to be different for the sake of being different.

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Focus Izalco Max is also a great option.
I do like the look of that bike, but, there doesn't appear to be a local dealer.

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orbea orcas are wicked lots of bike for the money these days.
I don't know how true it is, but, I have read that the Orca is a harsh ride.

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I'd look at a Scott Addict too.
That's an interesting option, I'm gonna have to look into it.


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Course, if you already have a 'road bike' I'd run you towards something different like a higher end/racier CX bike. Toss some aero wheels on it and ride it on the road. Toss some bigger tires on it and ride it off-road. Toss some tubulars on it and race CX. Win-win-win!
Sorry, I have zero interest in CX.

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Old 08-11-2017, 10:31 AM
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What's a good overview of the different carbon makers these days? I assume Giant is the 800 lb gorilla in the market just due to scale, from which they can invest more R&D into carbon processes etc, and they make frames for everyone. Specialized and Trek, similarly.

Beyond that who are the big or at least standout names for carbon?

Parlee?
Sarto?
Calfee?


Ridley, Pinarello, and other brands I assume design their frames and then contract out to Giant or another manufacturer for production?
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Old 08-11-2017, 11:01 AM
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Just another data point, but Specialized aeroized the upper model Tarmacs for 2018. So if you don't like the looks or ride of the Venge, that might be an option.
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Old 09-18-2017, 05:41 PM
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Just an update, I made a purchase though I have not received it yet. Assuming the listing was honest, I got a very nice deal on;

BMC TMR01 with 6800 Ultegra.


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