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Old 02-21-2017, 03:54 PM
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I'm certainly no expert, but those tell-tale linear abrasions (near the edge of the flange) are almost certainly from the previous lacing.
I'm not seeing the linear abrasions you are referring too. The only evidence I see of prior lacing are the elbow indentations on trailing edge of every other spoke hole caused by head-in trailing spokes. I don't see any other elbow indentations on the spoke holes leading in any other direction, indicative of lacing in the opposite direction.
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Old 02-21-2017, 04:15 PM
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I am not seeing multiple signs also, looks to be a single pattern on that hub however could have been laced multiple times consistent pattern.
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Old 02-21-2017, 05:29 PM
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I'm not seeing the linear abrasions you are referring too. The only evidence I see of prior lacing are the elbow indentations on trailing edge of every other spoke hole caused by head-in trailing spokes. I don't see any other elbow indentations on the spoke holes leading in any other direction, indicative of lacing in the opposite direction.
most obvious in the third foto and repeating at 135 degrees (counterclockwise) from the preceding/trailing (right of) spoke hole.

Um, best hubs ever.
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Old 02-21-2017, 08:08 PM
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Um, best hubs ever.
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most obvious in the third foto and repeating at 135 degrees (counterclockwise) from the preceding/trailing (right of) spoke hole.
Exactly. These be them... so to speak.

If you see these, you get to re-lace the wheel you just finished lacing up (been there, done that ).
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Old 02-22-2017, 05:16 AM
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Exactly. These be them... so to speak.

If you see these, you get to re-lace the wheel you just finished lacing up (been there, done that ).
Looks like a 'mirror image' previous lace..Outside pulling RH, inside pulling left hand. I don't do that, swap directions but on the non drive side rear, since the tension is so low, not really a huge deal.
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Old 02-22-2017, 08:20 AM
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Looks like a 'mirror image' previous lace..Outside pulling RH, inside pulling left hand. I don't do that, swap directions but on the non drive side rear, since the tension is so low, not really a huge deal.
If you look closely, the drive-side flange has the same marks.

You know tons more about this stuff than yours truly... but it does indicate that these hubs have been laced at least twice, and that the last 'wheel builder' wasn't as careful as you are.
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Old 02-22-2017, 08:26 AM
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I love learning new things--how concerned would you be to use these hubs yourself? I'm really excited at having found them at what I considered a very reasonable price, but at a certain point safety overrules saving. Is something like this approaching that breaking point?

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Looks like a 'mirror image' previous lace..Outside pulling RH, inside pulling left hand. I don't do that, swap directions but on the non drive side rear, since the tension is so low, not really a huge deal.
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Old 02-22-2017, 08:28 AM
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I love learning new things--how concerned would you be to use these hubs yourself? I'm really excited at having found them at what I considered a very reasonable price, but at a certain point safety overrules saving. Is something like this approaching that breaking point?
No, use 'em.
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Old 02-22-2017, 08:32 AM
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No, use 'em.
. . . and that may be the best news I get today.

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Old 02-22-2017, 09:20 AM
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most obvious in the third foto and repeating at 135 degrees (counterclockwise) from the preceding/trailing (right of) spoke hole.
Oh ok, I mistakenly thought you were referring to the picture of the broken flange. The broken flange was laced in only one orientation, but the wheels in the classified ad clearly were re-laced in a different orientation.

In my experience, re-lacing a wheel in the opposite direction will only slightly increase the chances of flange breakage. Since flange breakage is not common to begin with, I wouldn't be concerned about using a wheel which had been re-laced in the opposite direction.
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Old 02-26-2017, 11:04 PM
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Picked up the wheels this evening--they look much better in person than in the photos. Can't believe how lucky I was to come across these wheels.

Should have it road-ready later this week. For now, here's where we stand:



The rims are Mavic A119--really wide and heavy. They feel like they should be completely invincible. Probably overkill for this bike, but they'll certainly do the trick for the time being.
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