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Well, away from this forum, 'cross in the US is a teeny, tiny segment and women's cross smaller still..even compared to road racing, which is also tiny in the US. I wish her much luck, regardless of how she tries to get the $.
For others, if you don't like GoFundMe, don't contribute..
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Just curious, do you have a larger point? Or are you just pointing out a fact about the differences between the availability of funding for male and female athletes without some kind of larger agenda? It seems to me that when people say something like this they are usually trying to imply some sort of injustice without doing the work of explaining how it is one. I think that it may be dangerous to just assume that any difference between groups of people is automatically some sort of injustice. I do hope that she does find a way to fund her dreams.
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agreed. but I don't think it's as simple as just a male vs female thing either.
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It's not. See what E-Richie wrote. He's right, and he knows firsthand.
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You could just sign her!
It has clearly been a long, difficult struggle with lots of stuff we don't fully know. But her narrative should fill in some of the pieces. So, yes, this is a last, desperate effort to salvage her season. I have contributed. Hopefully enough folks will do that she gets the opportunity to race enough to qualify for French Nationals and Worlds. BK
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The NBA is an enormous business and generates huge revenue. Women's cyclocross is a niche within a niche within a niche. As unfortunate as that is for these great athletes, it's barely above a hobby for all but the very top racers.
I'm guessing that even for the men, funding drops to very minimal levels outside the top 25 riders. I would bet the that the top 25 (possibly less) control 80% of all the real funding in cyclocross. For everyone else it's a labor of love. |
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Off and on over the years, I have worked with a women's "Pro" team. A good friend was the organizer/sportif and pulled together by hook/crook/pocket lint/empty promises a team that competed towards the sharper end of the grid in the domestic women's scene. One, sometimes 2 riders might have received a $5000 salary. Everyone got the use of a bike or 2 and wheels to use, not keep - and travel expenses/entry fees to about 10-15 pinpointed races per year. The meager winnings were split appropriately and the part-time staff got a few dollars and usually swag.
As far as the women on the team, if it wasn't for the financial web created by parents, boyfriends, husbands, full-time (and realllllly flexible) jobs or family members - not one racer would have been able to participate in the junket that was created. The mens side is only slightly better, but the prize list is elevated a bit. Being a niche, within a niche - I assume cyclocross is way worse E-richie is 100% correct about the smoke and mirrors. The majority of guys and gals that participate in the domestic scene are extremely driven by passion and driven to somehow make things work - financial repercussions be damned. They do what it takes and sacrifice to find the time to train and take proper care of themselves. Its a tough gig. Good luck to Caroline Mani, takes a lot to chase the dream |
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Pointing at a pay gap is not the same as proving a systemic unfair disparity in wages based on gender.
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