Look 585

[Keith A]

Originally Posted by dvancleve

Howdy folks.

It's probably buried in here somewhere, but how much stiffer (?) is the Ultra model? If you were, let's say, a moderately portly fellow who LOVED orange, would you pick a tangerine standard model or a not-orange Ultra?

Edit: this hypothetical, moderately portly fellow would need a Medium, if that matters...

Thanks, Doug

I have the Ultra in a Medium, but haven't ridden the non-ultra version to compare. One thing that will make a noticeable difference in the ride quality are the wheels. I have the Dura-Ace 7850-SL wheels on mine and these are pretty comfy compared to some of my carbon wheels. With this setup, I've always felt this was one of my more comfortable bikes to ride.

It seems like Look listed some percentage for the increased stiffness in their marketing information for the Ultra. You might be able to dig that up if you are interested.

Here is a discussion on another forum about the the stiffness differences...
https://www.roadbikereview.com/threa...ss-data.95043/

[Latestart]

Have seen this over the years and always think, I want to do this to my 585... Love it!

Originally Posted by robt57

Sold this sweetie to a PL member here, It got pushed out of the queue by a Wallymann EP frameset procured here as well.

Among the sweetest riding bike I've swung a leg over, no question...

[bshell]

Have an Ultra, had a standard immediately before that (replacement: shop cracked/separated the internal seat post sleeve from the seat tube if I'm saying that correctly).

Obviously unable to do an A-B comparison but I couldn't remember a difference in ride.

If it helps with respect to weight, I've ridden them being #175 to #205 and back.

[slowpoke]

Originally Posted by Keith A

Here is a discussion on another forum about the the stiffness differences...
https://www.roadbikereview.com/threa...ss-data.95043/

Just archiving this in case: https://web.archive.org/web/20230803...ss-data.95043/

May 17, 2017

Okay, the exact stiffness measurements are proprietary information, but I can give you a pretty accurate comparison of the frames you're asking about. One thing to keep in mind is that the 15% stiffer claim for the Ultra models is an average of the measurements taken at different points on the frame (headtube, B/B, and rear triangle for example). That is to say, the Ultra models are not necessarily 15% stiffer across the board; they may have a headtube that is 20% stiffer, a B/B that is 15% stiffer, and a rear triangle that is 10% stiffer. By doing this, we are able to "tune" the ride quality by optimizing stiffness for each area depending on the function of that area.

If you were to rank the frames from "least stiff" to "most stiff", it would be the 585, 595, 585 Ultra, 595 Ultra. A 595 frame averages about 5% stiffer than a 585 frame. I don't have data for the forks at the moment, but the HSC6 fork on the 595s is also stiffer than the HSC5 on the 585s (the HSC6 uses a 1 1/4" lower bearing so it has a beefier crown).

Regards,
chas@LookUSA

[SDJ]

Hi guys,

Loving all the talk and pics of 585s here so finally got around to taking a pic of my 2008 585 Ultra.

Repainted a couple of years ago (loosely based on the Colnago C-series paint scheme) as the frame was showing a lot of signs of usage plus red, white, black designs were never my thing.

Built with some old 10 speed Campa parts which have been upgraded to eleven speed and together with a Roadlink it shifts an 11-34 cassette with no issues (even tested it with an 11-36)

[ltwtsculler91]

Originally Posted by SDJ

Hi guys,

Loving all the talk a pics of 585s here so finally got around to taking a pic of my 2008 585 Ultra.

Repainted a couple of years ago (loosely based on the Colnago C-series paint scheme) as the frame was showing a lot of signs of usage plus red, white, black designs were never my thing.

Built with some old 10 speed Campa parts which have been upgraded to eleven speed and together with a Roadlink it shifts an 11-34 cassette with no issues (even tested it with an 11-36)

So I was looking to sell mine which was custom painted by the previous owner, but seeing yours here is giving me other ideas.... oof I don't need to keep another bike. The painted lugs look amazing.

[SDJ]

Glad if I can help in you keeping your 585

Btw let’s see if anyone can spot the mistake in the new paint job…

[Toddtwenty2]

Originally Posted by SDJ

Glad if I can help in you keeping your 585

Btw let’s see if anyone can spot the mistake in the new paint job…

Missing "Look" on the seatstay? I believe Look made absolutely certain everyone knew what the bike brand underneath the rider was.

Awesome bike - very handsome.

[flying]

Originally Posted by SDJ

Repainted a couple of years ago (loosely based on the Colnago C-series paint scheme) as the frame was showing a lot of signs of usage plus red, white, black designs were never my thing.

I love that ! Great Idea on the C-series paint

[ScottW]

Originally Posted by SDJ

Btw let’s see if anyone can spot the mistake in the new paint job…

Older Look font on the seat tube and newer Look font on the downtube?
Does it still say Ultra in all the right places? Can't tell if it's there just in red therefore not standing out as much.

[SDJ]

Originally Posted by ScottW

Older Look font on the seat tube and newer Look font on the downtube?
Does it still say Ultra in all the right places? Can't tell if it's there just in red therefore not standing out as much.

And we have a winner 🏆

The painter sourced a logo for the downtube as I didn’t want it to say 585 ultra but didn’t check with me so ended up with a newer font - I don’t mind actually as it makes the frame even more unique to me 😁.

I chose not to have any ultra writing on the frame to keep it as clean as possible (kept the small VHM and Look “Mondrian” logos though)

[Elefantino]

Dang. Now I want to repaint mine. That's just perfect.

[M4k1]

Great looking paintjob!

[.RJ]

This one is up on ebay here -> https://www.ebay.com/itm/18601926280...Bk9SR7qH3N-6Yg

any idea what could have happened inside the BB shell?

[Kingson]

Originally Posted by SDJ

Hi guys,

Loving all the talk and pics of 585s here so finally got around to taking a pic of my 2008 585 Ultra.

Repainted a couple of years ago (loosely based on the Colnago C-series paint scheme) as the frame was showing a lot of signs of usage plus red, white, black designs were never my thing.

Built with some old 10 speed Campa parts which have been upgraded to eleven speed and together with a Roadlink it shifts an 11-34 cassette with no issues (even tested it with an 11-36)

oh... My... GOODNESS... GRACIOUS!!!

all that needs is a white stem.

if i ever get my 2007 Pro-Team White repainted, i'm doing it this way