"Good Condition" ?

[AngryScientist]

Offered for discussion:

This frame is listed as in "Good Condition".

https://www.ebay.com/itm/296377571767

To me, this frame looks ridden hard and put away wet. Maybe solved with a new paint job, but there is significant rust IMO.

Would you consider this good condition?

My size, wonder what it will go for?

[saab2000]

That is a possibly restorable “Fair” condition, possibly “Poor to fair”.

[fmradio516]

The obvious rust converter used is one thing, but some of those wounds on the stays look kinda deep... maybe just an optical illusion.

[Mark McM]

While the description as being in "good" condition is a bit (ahem) "generous", I also note that the seller started the bidding at quite the modest $0.99. The photos are all available to the bidders, and as it has already been bid up to $970 5 days before the auction end, it appears at least some people think it is in good enough condition.

[krooj]

CX bike that someone rode/raced the piss out of: looks like a lot chain suck and tire wear. Surprised there are no obvious dents.

That BB shell is like staring into the abyss.

[prototoast]

I'd call that poor condition.

[C40_guy]

Well, they're not making any more vintage RS cyclocross bikes!

...but...I'd be concerned about the rust on the stays too. Would be sub-optimal to buy that frame and send it out for paint, only to learn that the tin worm has eaten through a couple of the more important tubes.

[Turkle]

I'm having a really hard time understanding why someone would bid over $900 for that frame. But there are at least 4 bidders going toe-to-toe on it!

So, shows what I know.

Hey, if you ride a hard-to-find size, and are looking for a super-specific bike, and have the time and money to do a nice restoration of a neglected frame, I guess this is your Holy Grail. Definitely worth the money if that's the case!

[saab2000]

Originally Posted by Mark McM

While the description as being in "good" condition is a bit (ahem) "generous", I also note that the seller started the bidding at quite the modest $0.99. The photos are all available to the bidders, and as it has already been bid up to $970 5 days before the auction end, it appears at least some people think it is in good enough condition.

That’s how to sell something you want to move. I did that a number of years ago and it all sold and I miss none of it.

[vav]

Imperfect descriptions are perfect

[EB]

Ah, eBay. The future (circa 1997).

[m_sasso]

Run, anyone that would describe this frame as "good condition" couldn't be trusted to even own what they are claiming to sell.

[prototoast]

Originally Posted by m_sasso

Run, anyone that would describe this frame as "good condition" couldn't be trusted to even own what they are claiming to sell.

A little surprising coming from Piermont Bike, which is a legitimate shop with a long history, but on the other hand, there are more than enough pictures to make clear the state of the bike, so hopefully no buyer will feel misled.

[magoo]

Last year, I bought a Gunnar from ebay. The photos showed some rust, but not all of it. The bike was listed as refurbished by the owner, but the back wheel would hardly move. I contacted ebay and the buyer gave me a discount which I accepted.

I told the seller that it looked refurbished with a hammer and chisel!

I put my components on it and love it. I touched up the rust spots, but fear they will reappear. Nothing like the Gunnar that you scored on Angry.

[rallizes]

Does not every RS frame symbolize the impermanent nature of life?

A steel mandala, created and then destroyed?