vintage cartridge bearing hub ID

[oliver1850]

I thought I had purchased a matching pair, but after looking more closely I'm thinking these are two different brands. Rear shell is slightly tapering between the flanges, front has steps. Both have slip on axle caps but rear has silver serrated washers on the ends, fronts are plain. Front is more highly polished, rear shows light machine marks on flange ends. Rims don't match either. If anyone has a 32 hole tan-ish anodized Sun (M19, Mistral?) aero tubular or Nisi AN85 for cheap, let me know.

[choke]

The front hub looks like an American Classic.

[thirdgenbird]

hard t tell from the angle. But the rear skewer looks like an American Racing part. It would have had a black plastic bar going through the hole in the nut.

[Peter P.]

If you want to I.D. the bearing, look at the outside seal. You should see a number embossed on the seal that says something like, RS6001 or 6902. The letter prefix indicates the type of seal on the bearing.

That's the bearing number. It will cross reference to a standard bearing with standard dimensions.

[oliver1850]

Thanks

Front hub does appear to be an AC, as does the skewer. This velobase AC listing also shows serrated ends on the rear axle caps, but the shell shape doesn't match the rear I have:

http://velobase.com/ViewComponent.as...=110&AbsPos=33

I don't think the rear is a Hi E, Phil, or Bullseye. Who else made hubs in this style?

[regularguy412]

IMHO, they both appear to be American Classic. I realize the skewers could have been swapped, but I have a pair of AC hubs with those exact skewers. Those axle spacers just slide off the ends of the axle -- thus, they could be easily changed to match the varying OLD dimensions on rear spacing that were occurring during the mid- to late- 1990s.

Mike in AR

edit: when i get home from work, i'll shoot a pic of the hubs i have.

These are my AC hubs that I removed from a set of Campy Record Chrono tubular rims. The rear hub is freewheel.

[thirdgenbird]

Weyless made hubs in that style, but it doesn't look like one of those either.

[choke]

Originally Posted by oliver1850

I don't think the rear is a Hi E, Phil, or Bullseye. Who else made hubs in this style?

I've definitely never seen a Bullseye that looks like that.

Originally Posted by regularguy412

IMHO, they both appear to be American Classic.

And I've never seen an AC that resembles that either.

I've seen that style rear hub before but anything that comes to mind doesn't look like it when I do a pic search.

[choke]

When in doubt, consult the experts. I think both the hub and QR are Kingsbery.

http://www.mombat.org/Hub_Museum.htm...s%20from%20D-M

[Mark McM]

American Classic and Kingsberry products from that period look remarkably similar. But I think this is a mismatched set.

It appears that the front hub is American Classic (from Velobase):



But the rear hub appears to be a Kingsbery:

[oliver1850]

Thanks Mark. That looks closer than anything else I've seen. I didn't know Kingsberry made hubs, but I have one of their seatposts and it looks nearly identical to an AC.