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How to read geometry chart
I just copy and paste two different geometry charts. (just use them for references only ) Doesn't matter what model.
My problem is if the chart doesn't have the stand over height listed, it will confuse the hell out of me. Reason being that different bike models even listed as the same size ( for example 52cm for giant bike is different from 52cm Cannondale ) the cannondale will have a higher " stand over height ". Many times, people usually ask how tall i am to figure out if the bike fits me or not. (I'm 5'9" with 30 1/2 inseam), but usually when people hear that I am 5'9" then they will recommend a size 54cm bike for me. The truth is, I can barely handle a 52cm. So knowing how to read a geometry chart without the " stand over height " listed will be a great help. Someone please help me how to figure out the " stand over height" of a bike if the geometry chart doesn't have it on there. Thanks g1.jpg g2.jpg |
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The problem with quoting a standover height on a frame like this (the lower image) is that it varies based on how far fwd or back you're standing. With a horizontal TT bike it's a constant, so given the frame and wheel + tire radius information, a legitimate number can be calculated.
Good Luck Last edited by Louis; 01-19-2017 at 10:06 PM. |
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Your point is exactly why most people on this board think of (effective) top tube length as the more important starting point for sizing a bike, rather than seat tube length. Compact frames mean that the seat tube length isn't nearly as meaningful as it used to be with horizontal top tubes.
And standover height can change not only with where you measure it fore/aft on a bike with a sloping top tube, it can also change depending on the size of the tires you are running. The "best" sizing measurements are probably stack and reach, but they're pretty obscure to a beginner, and can need a little trigonometry to calculate if the manufacturer doesn't specify them. |
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The standover height, AFAIK, on the bottom geo would be stack + bb drop (BBH). approximately. however I don't thing stand over height really matters much, reach and stack, much more important |
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As Louis points out, on a level tt frame standover will be the distance from the ground to the top of the top tube.
For a sloping tt frame, one could get close via two means: A) Add BBH plus ETT (Effective Top Tube, the measurement from the bb center to the top tube center-line, parallel to the ground) plus half of the top tube diameter. B) Add BBH plus Stack minus the dimension from the top of the head tube (where stack is measured) to the top of the top tube. R3awak3n just beat me to line! |
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IMO u cant judge the size of a frame based in the stand over height, because if the BB is higher or lower and u are used to get frames based in the stand over height as a main measurement u can end up with the wrong frame size bike time. The same can happen if a manufacturer decides to get the front tube longer. u can end up in the wrong size, specially if the frame has sloping top tube as many pointed out.
Actually some manufacturers have the bad idea of posting the stand over height in their tables of sloping frames, if the angle of that top tube is ridiculously sharp, u end with the wrong size again. Virtual top tube, reach is what you have to know how to read, many times the front tube will help you a lot. Im talking of decently designed stuff here, if we go to wackly designed stuff you will find the weirdest sizes that I would advice you to run away from them because are really hard to fit aswell. For example some of the trek low end aluminum stuff or some wackly 6 foot tall front tube road bikes that really make my eyes hurt when i see them. Hope this helps. |
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To my understanding, SOH refer to the middle of the top tube to the ground.
So it doesn't matter wether it's a horizontal or sloping top tube. We want to know the height from middle of top tube to ground. Correct me if I am wrong. So knowing that if I can clear the SOH is very important to get a proper fit. |
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Yep. Micro-seconds. The width of a standover chart.
I was Zabel, you were Friere. . . |
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Stand over height is probably the last number I look at when considering a frame, it's the least important.
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If a typical road frame (I'm excluding trick and clown frames here) fits in other respects, the chances of having a problem with standover height are minimal.
If you want a rough idea whether it may be a problem, compare your saddle height to the seat tube length. If you would have a lot of seat post showing, standover height won't be a problem. Last edited by djdj; 01-20-2017 at 07:59 AM. |
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Wait, wouldn't standover height be stack minus bottom bracket drop, then plus one-half wheel diameter (including tire)?
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“A bicycle is not a sofa†-- Dario Pegoretti Last edited by OtayBW; 01-20-2017 at 08:39 AM. |
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