OT: VW cheating emissions on TDI vehicles

[peanutgallery]

How do we know that vw isn't lying to us thru the manual, too?

[Ken Robb]

Originally Posted by bcroslin

Wait a second, you want me to open the manual?

Maybe not needed. If you can find out if your engine is one where the pistons can hit the valves if the belt breaks or if a broken belt just means the engines stops, gets towed to a shop where a new belt can be installed. OTOH if pistons bend valves you are looking at BIG $$$$$.

[sailorboy]

Originally Posted by shovelhd

Mine is void in November. I'll spend the balance before then. You can try selling it on tdiclub or vwvortex. People are paying $400 for an unused one.

Is it possible for someone other than the one named on these cards to use them?

I got them but by the time they came I had already traded my TDI in. The instructions to register and use the cards require that you still have proof of ownership for the vehicle.

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by Cat3roadracer

I have a '13, timing belt interval 130k.

Does that mean a '14 is 140k? Just kidding, this thread needs some levity..it's just a farging car afterall-IMHO

[carpediemracing]

Originally Posted by sailorboy

Is it possible for someone other than the one named on these cards to use them?

I got them but by the time they came I had already traded my TDI in. The instructions to register and use the cards require that you still have proof of ownership for the vehicle.

You have to own the car to get the cards activated. Our dealership did a check (go out to car, check VIN, etc).

*edit but apparently someone else can use them.

[bcroslin]

Originally Posted by Ken Robb

Maybe not needed. If you can find out if your engine is one where the pistons can hit the valves if the belt breaks or if a broken belt just means the engines stops, gets towed to a shop where a new belt can be installed. OTOH if pistons bend valves you are looking at BIG $$$$$.

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I checked the service interval manual and it says the timing belt needs to be replaced at the 110k or 120k interval so we've got some time.

[akelman]

"Given the scale of the difficulties, VW’s executive board member responsible for procurement, Francisco Garcia Sanz, hasn’t even been discussing technical details of the recall plan in talks with the EPA in the past few days but has instead been trying to arrive at a 'a big solution,' WirtschaftsWoche learned from people familiar with the talks."

"This option would involve the construction of a new factory to manufacture electric vehicles, buying back and scrapping affected diesel cars and purchasing nitrogen emissions rights. This would be a payment for thousands of tonnes of nitrogen oxide the diesel cars emitted above their allowed limits."

https://global.handelsblatt.com/edit...tric-car-plant

[akelman]

"VW aims to fix as many of the affected cars as possible and buy back vehicles where a fix is not possible."

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-vo...-idUSKCN0WJ2AB

[AngryScientist]

wow. this is turning into a very interesting saga indeed. buybacks, electric vehicle bargaining, retro-active credit offsets. you cant make this stuff up!

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by akelman

"VW aims to fix as many of the affected cars as possible and buy back vehicles where a fix is not possible."

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-vo...-idUSKCN0WJ2AB

Which cars is a 'fix not possible'?

[shovelhd]

Gen1. It's possible but it makes no sense. Gen2 and Gen3 cars with SCR have a shot with a flash, increased urea dosing, and possibly a higher volume cat.

[shovelhd]

Originally Posted by AngryScientist

wow. this is turning into a very interesting saga indeed. buybacks, electric vehicle bargaining, retro-active credit offsets. you cant make this stuff up!

What's interesting is that VW's BOD is involved. Will we find anything out on Thursday? Stay tuned.

[akelman]

Originally Posted by shovelhd

Gen1. It's possible but it makes no sense. Gen2 and Gen3 cars with SCR have a shot with a flash, increased urea dosing, and possibly a higher volume cat.

Yup. I continue not to have any idea what's going to happen. But it's become increasingly clear that VW has no viable fix for the Gen1 cars. Whether CARB and the EPA will allow those cars to stay on the road regardless remains something of a mystery.

[akelman]

Originally Posted by shovelhd

Will we find anything out on Thursday?

I'll bet you a Deutsche Mark that we will not.

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by shovelhd

Gen1. It's possible but it makes no sense. Gen2 and Gen3 cars with SCR have a shot with a flash, increased urea dosing, and possibly a higher volume cat.

2013, which is mine?