2nd Generation Red AXS - E1

[Davist]

Originally Posted by avalonracing

I find it interesting that they do the calipers in a silver finish. I'm so tired of the black bike with black logos with black components thing. But If I'm going to have any component in black it would be brake calipers as silver calipers just seem to stick out. I guess that is their plan but they should at least make them black and silver to match the rest of the parts.

all the better to show off brake dust? Not sure but I think that's why calipers are typically black.. looks a little "off" to me with most everything black.

[Mike V]

The front derailleur is bigger than Campagnolo

[merckx]

Originally Posted by Mike V

The front derailleur is bigger than Campagnolo

Some girls' mothers are bigger than other girls' mothers.

[Davist]

Cannondale now features a SuperSix EVO LAB71 (gack the capiTaliZation) with this on it. While I'm not a mathematician by trade, $16k list seems a bit ambitious to me... $6k frame, $4k group, $2k wheels, then $1k misc still leaves me a few $k short must be luxury or exclusivity fees! It is pretty though SuperSix EVO LAB71 Red AXS E1

[Mike V]

Originally Posted by merckx

Some girls' mothers are bigger than other girls' mothers.

From the ice-age to the dole-age

[Dave]

The article that I read says that the brake hoods are 7mm longer in reach, which would mean one size shorter stem for most users.

I don't agree with the long lever throw claim. If the contact adjustment is used properly, the brakes are bled with the contact adjuster full CCW or up. That produces the minimum lever travel and immediate movement of the brake pads. Turning the adjuster CW just creates deadband., where the lever moves, but the pads don't. I have to use the lever reach adjustment and get them much closer to the bar, so I can reach them. I get them very close to touching the handlebar under full braking. I never use the contact adjustment since it would just make things worse.

The pinched fingers complaints are amusing. With small hands, fingers are never left under the levers while braking.

I also don't get the desire for narrow hoods, except perhaps for those of us with small hands. I have 3 bikes with D1 Force levers and don't find the new and narrow Rival hoods on my newest bike to be any real improvement. The Rival brakes work great though.

I also read that the new Red brake calipers provide 0.4mm more pad clearance that will certainly make wheel swaps easier.

Still disappointing is the 13T difference between the chain rings. My 2X bikes will keep using Shimano GRX 46/30 12 speed cranks that shift great.

[Mark McM]

Originally Posted by KonaSS

That is the outgoing generation of Red. The new generation, released today, signified by E1 does not have a rim brake version.

That said, E1 parts are backwards compatible. So you could use new E1 derailleurs and cranks with prior gen Red rim brake shifters.

Part of the backwards compatibility is due to continuing to use DOT fluid in the brakes. But a quote from SRAM Category Director for Road Paul Kantor in the Escape Collective review implies that they intend to go to mineral oil at some point in the future:

Many expected SRAM to make the move to mineral oil as they’ve done in a couple of the brand’s mountain bike brakes, however, new Red AXS instead sticks with DOT 5.1. “We still believe DOT is the highest performing of the options. I wouldn’t say in the future that we’ll never go mineral oil on the road, but you have to look at backwards compatibility and when you’ll make a generational change. It just wasn’t the time to make a change to mineral oil,” explained SRAM’s Category Director for Road, Paul Kantor, in our bonus Geek Warning episode.

[Likes2ridefar]

Originally Posted by Dave

The pinched fingers complaints are amusing. With small hands, fingers are never left under the levers while braking.

Glad some find it amusing. I find it painful. Not everyone rides the same terrain as you and there are many different styles of riding as well.