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Seems like we have people throwing darts at a wall. Perhaps it’s your emotions, maybe it’s posture, maybe it’s genetics, maybe it’s……. Etc etc etc
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IMO, we have generationally lost a considerable amount of the natural lordosis in our lower spine from driving, prolonged disk sitting, slouching, and the like. This, to me, is the greatest cause of disk-related lower back pain, sciatica, etc. The good news is that cycling on a well fitted bike creates extension in the lower back which helps.
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Of course we do. We don't know as much as we will or even have everything we know right, but to say we don't know anything about the body is silly
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Experience? Try lifting heavy objects with your back for the rest of your life and let us know how it goes. The main thing is people use their spines as a lever (just moving or lifting) which causes injury. I don't think the 'do we really know anything?' argument applies well here.
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Oh ya, well, I think you are silly!!!!!
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The discussions in this thread about MRIs, and the effect of desk jobs on the back, and medical interventions are all interesting, but their connection to this book isn't how they affect the human back; the connection to the book is how it shows our fascination with posture. |
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I think it's hard to argue with the bio-physics. I have 3 cervical disks reminding each day about my posture and head position; whether I can ever again comfortably ride a road bike remains to be seen but 6 months of pt, traction and chiro designed to change my forward head position seems to be helping, and one need not be overly tuned into how one feels to differentiate the difference between a body bound up at the end of a day of sitting and one stretched and limber. Let's see what the author thinks when she's a few decades older.
The book may have a point, but I don't think it's about biology and health. Rather in today's world, seems to me, too many people looking for validation and excuses rather than taking on personal responsibility for their state. The NYT article that Josh linked re the fat excuser left me slack jawed and truly sad for her kids, for whom it is a 24/7 all you can eat junk food buffet of highly processed chemicals - plastic bins full of Oreos .... damn. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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I started having back problems such that my typical Chiro adjustment no longer worked. Siting was mad painful and for the first time in my life, cycling was impossible. I had difficulties walking straight but when I could, I did. I could also run carefully....and I did up hills. But damn, putting on pants and socks was difficult, sleeping painful, etc. My Chiro suspected that I may have injured a psoas muscle and suggested I try needling. I did (plus painful deep massage) and damn, it worked. That and strengthening the lower back muscles. Today I'm fine. Better actually because I can now easily touch my toes and then some. What I learned is that cycling creates problems much like sitting does. So what I did was cut one cycling day from my week and added a walk/run hills day. |
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Sorry to hear about the back
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But yah, the whole thread was started on a misconception. Somebody who works a tough job that impacts their posture is not "lazy" or a "bad person". And not everyone can go quit that job and hire a personal trainer to do everything "right". It's not like jobs that have a physical aspect leave you in a much better place after 30-40 years either. |
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“Nice to meet you.” “Your posture looks pretty good. And it doesn’t matter — that’s the whole point of my book. It’s fake news.” The question isn’t of blame, but whether or not good posture matters. And it definitely does. One article of many: https://www.wellnessforthebody.com/p...om-home-slouch If your daily routine has you looking like the people in the pictures, you have to make some corrections. |
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That is what I look like - gawd.
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If they ditched the tie and jacket they'd be fine.
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