20 years ago today, il Pirata died

[benb]

Well I said "caught" not "admitted". Big difference.

I am not one to say they were victims but I am OK with someone who des argue they were victimized by their coaches/directors, team managers, sponsors, etc.. who at the time were not going to accept "No" when they showed up with a needle.

They always could have walked away, but most of them didn't have that much to walk away too, and guys like Ullrich were deep into the system as minors IIRC. Probably an easy choice if it's be a pro athlete who goes along with the team sponsored doping program or go work a dead end low-wage job.