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Old 02-23-2017, 10:51 AM
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More disc brake follies

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Old 02-23-2017, 10:52 AM
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going to have to put chainguards on as well?
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Old 02-23-2017, 11:14 AM
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Has the pro peloton fought against any other component changes as hard as they seem to be fighting against disc brakes?

In the past, some riders preferred not to use certain new technologies, such as clipless pedals or deep carbon wheels (particularly on cobbles), but I can't remember riders lobbying against letting anyone else use particular equipment.
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Old 02-23-2017, 11:20 AM
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going to have to put chainguards on as well?
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It seems a disc rotor would be more protected by the overall wheel than sharp-toothed chain rings.

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"Nothing else could cut like that, it’s like a knife, it cut straight through it. You can see that thin line, it’s exactly in line, cut there and cut there on my shoe and both straight through in an arrow-straight line."
If he says so. But, my chain rings are way sharper than my rounded and coated TRP rotor edges.

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Old 02-23-2017, 11:27 AM
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It seems a disc rotor would be more protected by the overall wheel that sharp-toothed chain rings.



If he says so. But, my chain rings are way sharper than my rounded and coated TRP rotor edges.
Maybe sharper, but nowhere near in as dangerous an area of the bike for causing damage. Disks are at either 'end' of a bike; chainrings in the 'middle'. Cuts and gashes from chainrings are not unknown, but grease smears are much more common, and that's because of their position within the overall bicycle 'shape'.
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Old 02-23-2017, 11:29 AM
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Chainrings also does not continue to rotate when the rider stop pedaling unlike discs..
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Old 02-23-2017, 12:53 PM
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Making the sport more dangerous so Specialized can sell more Roubaixs, and the manufacturers have convinced the fans to belittle the riders for it!
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Old 02-23-2017, 12:54 PM
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Making the sport more dangerous so Specialized can sell more Roubaixs, and the manufacturers have convinced the fans to belittle the riders for it!
This sums up the situation quite well.....
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Old 02-23-2017, 01:32 PM
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going to have to put chainguards on as well?
I'm a bit sick of that comparison. It's not wise to accept an additional and unrelated risk just because a similar one has already been accepted. Each risk needs to be weighed and addressed individually. Not only do the risks associated with chainrings differ, but the alternative methods differ. I know people that have been injured (seriously cut) by spokes in races, but it wouldn't be prudent to enforce disc (spokeless) wheels as a knee jerk reaction because they pose their own set of risks and issues.

I'm not taking sides on the disc/rim debate. I only want to point out that the discussion is about risk mitigation and not risk elimination. The anti-disc camp makes a valid point that a potentially safer alternative to discs brakes, not only exists but is the current standard.

Blindly accepting a risk just because we accept a different risk is a slippery slope. It doesn't make sense to forget about safety just because the sport will never be 100% safe.

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Old 02-23-2017, 01:48 PM
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Awesome sprint by Cavendish in that video. Just seems like the final Km's carry pretty high risks no matter the braking tech. But adding anything that might exacerbate the risk is probably not a good idea - regardless of its advantages elsewhere.
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Old 02-23-2017, 01:59 PM
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Making the sport more dangerous so Specialized can sell more Roubaixs, and the manufacturers have convinced the fans to belittle the riders for it!
Yeah, but think of the great opportunities for marketing double speak:

"Disc brakes - going faster by going slower!"

"Slow is the new fast!"
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Old 02-23-2017, 03:55 PM
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Your points are all correct, I don't care about discs too much. I'm just saying that if they start putting guards on things it may be hard to stop.


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I'm a bit sick of that comparison. It's not wise to accept an additional and unrelated risk just because a similar one has already been accepted. Each risk needs to be weighed and addressed individually. Not only do the risks associated with chainrings differ, but the alternative methods differ. I know people that have been injured (seriously cut) by spokes in races, but it wouldn't be prudent to enforce disc (spokeless) wheels as a knee jerk reaction because they pose their own set of risks and issues.

I'm not taking sides on the disc/rim debate. I only want to point out that the discussion is about risk mitigation and not risk elimination. The anti-disc camp makes a valid point that a potentially safer alternative to discs brakes, not only exists but is the current standard.

Blindly accepting a risk just because we accept a different risk is a slippery slope. It doesn't make sense to forget about safety just because the sport will never be 100% safe.
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Old 02-23-2017, 05:46 PM
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Photos suggest that wasn't what happened.

http://www.velonews.com/2017/02/news...t-didnt_431165
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Old 02-23-2017, 07:03 PM
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Chainrings also does not continue to rotate when the rider stop pedaling unlike discs..
That doesn't matter much. I know of a rider who seriously injured a dog in a relatively slow crash.
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Old 02-23-2017, 07:14 PM
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Photos suggest that wasn't what happened.

http://www.velonews.com/2017/02/news...t-didnt_431165
Grainy helicopter footage. The two are right next to each other and the wave hits. I'd say if anything this footage makes it seem more probable.
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