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Old 05-13-2024, 07:30 PM
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I don't have enough experience with newer Campagnolo skewers to have an opinion on them. I've heard of at least one set of Paul's cracking.

105/Ultegra/DA skewers are the bees knees when it comes to preventing slipping like this. I had problems on a Simoncini with nickel plated dropouts. I used DA skewers. I used the same skewers on my Black Mountain monstercross.

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Old 05-13-2024, 07:39 PM
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As has been mentioned a steel, internal cammed skewer will do the trick.

Old Campy Nuovo Record, Suzue, lower tier Shimano; you name it.

While not an option, I will say vertical dropouts, at least in my experience, don't have this problem.
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Old 05-13-2024, 08:25 PM
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Replace the alloy campy end nut with a steel one. This should bite into the drive side drop out. You get to keep the campy skewer.
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For horizontal dropouts you need steel internal cam skewers and steel locknuts with some form of grip. I have a couple hundred thousand miles on that setup and it doesn't slip. Old school Campy Record, DuraAce, Superbe Pro, Normandy, Simplex, etc all work well. Use some Campy H tools to make sure the dropouts are perfectly parallel.

The lightweight alloy endcaps and skewers work fine with vertical dropouts.
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Old 05-14-2024, 07:33 AM
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Even super cheap old school steel skewers work great for this-its one of the areas where you need to forget weight savings when riding vintage stuff. Even at my pitiful ftp I'll pull a wheel when climbing if I don't either use one or crank down a lighter one after clamping so tight I'm in fear of breaking it off.
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Old 05-14-2024, 07:43 AM
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The current version that come with boras, etc.

Modern (these, for instance) skewers won't play nicely with horizontal dropouts. In short, when the industry became overwhelmingly nonferrous and vertical dropouts the default shape, component makers changed the cam mechanisms such that they don't bite into the frame as they did in the previous eras.

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Old 05-14-2024, 08:30 AM
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I use a DT Swiss RWS skewer on a single-speed bike with chromed horizontal dropouts. Zero issues.

Hard to imagine an old Campy or 9000/9100 skewer not getting the job done either, though.
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Old 05-14-2024, 08:38 AM
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Once again, the Paceline comes through.,

I [incorrectly] thought that any internal cam good skewer would get the job done, but now realize that the campag units have soft alloy faces.

Threw on a random DT Swiss RWS I found in the bin, cranked it down hard, and took it up a local hill a few times under as much power as I could muster and no slippage.

Case closed.

Thanks all.
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Old 05-14-2024, 08:46 AM
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Once again, the Paceline comes through.,

I [incorrectly] thought that any internal cam good skewer would get the job done, but now realize that the campag units have soft alloy faces.

Threw on a random DT Swiss RWS I found in the bin, cranked it down hard, and took it up a local hill a few times under as much power as I could muster and no slippage.

Case closed.

Thanks all.
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Old 05-14-2024, 09:05 AM
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Once again, the Paceline comes through.,

I [incorrectly] thought that any internal cam good skewer would get the job done, but now realize that the campag units have soft alloy faces.

Threw on a random DT Swiss RWS I found in the bin, cranked it down hard, and took it up a local hill a few times under as much power as I could muster and no slippage.

Case closed.

Thanks all.
Man, I had this exact issue with my very first road bike, a 70's Bianchi back in ~2001-2002. I got so pissed with that bike that I ended up selling it, RWS skewers hadn't been invented yet I don't think.
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