[pdmtong]

better value...?

better build...?

what does it matter? people need to make their own value purchase evaluations. get some opinions, make up your own mind. maybe take a chance. or not.

some folks happily pay $8k for a meivici...that makes the steelman pricing right in line.

plenty of steel choices out there. as has been often said, you have to find the builder who speaks to you. once that happens, it either fits your budget or doesnt. or, you save to make it happen becasue you believe.

get the geo right, and the bike will sing. the rest, it just makes for the beautiful aura we all want as part of the handmade journey.

whoa, did I just write this? time for another pour.

PS...jack b. is definitely one of the good guys. make no mistake about it.