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You don’t mention exact equipment, that would help here.
If this has been going on a long time and you’re just now trying to get it ‘right’, try the following:
1) don’t shift into the granny ring unless in one of the three largest cogs
2) double check chain length- it may be too long
3) try alternative front derailleurs- Deore style FD’s tend to have a shaped cage end to avoid what you describe
Sometimes, you just gotta juggle bits around until it all works right. If nothing else, a dog tooth chain catcher will get you halfway there.
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