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Old 10-10-2013, 10:11 PM
93legendti 93legendti is offline
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I am sickened by the talk of limiting reproduction. Seems some people need to hear my famous uncle's lectures on the topic. I guess we are a long way away from the T-4 program. Some people learned nothing from the atrocities of the 20th century.

The hypocrisy of blaming capitalism is stunning, especially since we haven't had proper capitalism in the USA in a very, very long time.

My suggestion, before you blame our ills on what you improperly label capitalism, is get your own house in order. The article below is just one of many govt backed green firms that left a toxic legacy, as well as a large tax payer bill for cleanup.

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_2266621...azardous-waste

Yes, it's never thoughtless socialism (with a good dose of crony "capitalism" thrown in) and green energy/environmentalism that's the problem:

Colorado orders Abound Solar to clean up hazardous waste at four sites
By Mark Jaffe
The Denver Post
POSTED: 02/25/2013 05:14:41 PM MST
34 COMMENTS
UPDATED: 02/26/2013 04:50:27 PM MST

The Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment says Abound Solar is responsible for thousands of "unsellable" solar panels containing cadmium in warehouses. Barrels of toxic liquid also were found. (Special to The Denver Post)
Colorado health and environment officials have ordered Loveland-based Abound Solar, the bankrupt solar-panel maker, to clean up hazardous waste at four Front Range locations.

The Abound facilities are storing thousands of "unsellable" solar panels and thousands of gallons of toxic liquids, according to Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment reports.

"The Department views these 2,000 pallets of solar panels as a characteristic hazardous waste for cadmium," a report on a Denver warehouse said...

The cost of the cleanup is estimated by the trustee to be $2.2 million...

Abound made solar panels by applying a thin film of cadmium telluride to a sheet of glass.

Cadmium is classified as a toxic substance and is a known carcinogen, according to federal health agencies...

The company spent $70 million of a $400 million federal loan guarantee that will leave taxpayers with a bill of $40 million to $60 million, once the bankruptcy is settled.

Abound stopped shipping nonfunctioning panels to a recycler in Wisconsin in February 2012 "due to cost constraints," according the bankruptcy trustee.

Health-department inspectors found 3,600 pallets of Abound panels in a Denver warehouse and said a little more than half of them were not sellable.

At Abound's former Longmont factory, inspectors found 30 55-gallon drums of cadmium-contaminated fluids and two large tanks with a total of 2,500 gallons of cadmium-contaminated water.

At a Longmont warehouse, 500 pallets of defective panels were found by inspectors.

And at a research-and-development facility, additional cadmium waste was found, Schieffelin said.

"At both manufacturing facilities, there is a probability of cadmium contamination throughout the buildings," Schieffelin said.
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