Me either....<sniff>

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But I do have to admit I'm curious to see what he is coming out with.



William

steel for me thank you very much
 

I'm old fashioned I guess. No carbon anywhere for me. I won't even consider a frame if it doesn't have a steel fork. I have just never gotten the carbon thing unless one is a weight weenie or racing, and since I weigh 220# and don't race.........I'll stick to steel. Heck even if I weighed 150 I'd still buy nothing but steel.

I wish John the best of luck and I'm sure he's smart enough to know what he's doing. Unfortunately I'll have to scratch him off my dream builder's list.

That looks very labor intensive, and not an easy process to replicate time and time again. Artisan is a word that comes to mind.

It would come to most minds with any sort of width...

And this is what so great about America, you don't have to ever buy carbon! :crap: :hello: :butt:

But, there are many of us who love it and will continue to ride it. I've been riding a used Calfee now for over 13 years and 25K miles and love it. I'm not paranoid about my frameset even though I've crashed several times including a few that caused personal injury to myself. It is smooth, comfortabl and being custom (e.g., long top tube), it fits like a glove. I look forward to each ride.

Note, I also ride steel and commute on a Taylor cross bike. Its definitely heavier and not as comfortable, but it gets me where I want to go and best of all, it fits fenders. Of course, if I had the $$$$ and I'd probably get a carbon built up with eyelets and clearance for fenders.

Btw, a buddy of mine, who participates on this forum, just bought a carbon Landshark and from his initial impression, seems to really like it. I've only seen pictures of it, very nice, but will let him respond about the ride. Good Luck!

Sorry, I had to figure out how to reduce the photo from 3MB. I'm not a computer guy....

those are some nice looking frames. I did not know that he had refocused on carbon to such a large extent. The flexability of the carbon joining process really leads to a lot of unique solutions.

in the beginning it seems that a lot of builders starting in carbon by use off the shelf molded rear ends. I guess one could tune these by adding some more carbon to them for extra stiffness. I wonder if the relatively small variety of these that are available (in comparison to metal chainstay and seatstay combinations) is a real handicap.

did early crumptons use easton rear ends?

I really love the paint on the frame shown in the process page.

Resurrecting an old thread.

I have to say a custom made carbon frame can easily be as much as a piece of art as a handmade steel frame. I don't know how his frames compare (performance wise) to the latest Dogma or Colnago carbon frames? The latest landsharks are beautiful with each one having it's own touches of an artisan.

Here's a used one for sale for $1,100
http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/bik/3167749019.html

Beautiful bike. His aesthetic suits carbon very well.

Righteous looking frame :)
Cheers IMHO
I miss bicycletricycle's Views on bikes

I bet they ride great...it's not like he quit making bikes and started making ElliptiGo's

:-)

I generally prefer metal but lately I have been pondering a carbon Landshark with a cool design. I would give John a few concept and let him go wild with paint. American? Handmade? A true craftsman? Can't beat that in a bike. (Okay Italian is good too.)

That is one hell of a deal!

I'm thinking the same!!!

And John is a great guy to do business with...