1999 Rapid Tour geometry?
Greetings from a Serotta newbie!
Does anyone have any idea of the basic geometry of a Colorado Concept Rapid Tour model from 1999 or so in 52 cm? I know these bikes are really individuized for fit, but are things like the hta and sta pretty standard? I've done some searching without much luck. Thanks! Bruce |
I have a 2000 catalog and I think the spec's were the same as 1999.
ST - 52 c-c TT - 53 SA - 73 HA - 71.5 Cstay - 42.5 Rake - 5.5 BB drop - 8 I hope that helps. dave |
Dave-that's awesome! Thanks.
What do folks think of these bikes in general? I take it they are in the lower part of the Serotta totem pole, but still pretty fine. |
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From the Serotta catalog: "If the Rapid Tour would be described in automotive comparisons, it would probably be a SAAB 9-5 V6 Turbo Wagon. It responds like a race bike, is practical enough for the most reasonable Northwesterner and handles with ease. It's got room enough for full, supple tires (28~35MM depending on the brand), fender clearance (with eyelets front and rear) and plenty of room for a triple crank. Rear rack mounts are also standard, so when you want, load it up. One ride in the hills and you'd swear you were on a race bike because it climbs and corners like all Serottas-incredibly. The slightly longer chain-stays aide in smoother shifts with triples while a stabilizing, slightly slackened front-end and lower bottom bracket adds to your sightseeing pleasure. The extended head tube provides the opportunity tor a higher handlebar position for eliminating back fatigue experienced by many cyclists." The Rapid Tour used the same tubing as the Atlanta, considered one of the better Steel Serottas. I would probably describe the Rapid Tour as a fast credit-card touring bike, capable of forging ahead on most all passable roads. You've got a keeper! |
What Dave said. I've wanted to get my hands on one of them in my size for along time. They don't surface very often and ther is a reason why. :beer:
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I borrowed one for a few hours and wanted to buy it. I did buy a Rivendell Rambouillet which is quite similar in ride/handling.
If a 60-61cm Rapid Tour came up for sale I might have a hard timekeeping my wallet in my pocket. :beer: |
I have a 2002 Legend Ti Rapid Tour ...
RT is definitely NOT lower end. It is a comfortable ride with high end performance ... Consider your self fortunate if you can locate a RT in your size. :beer: |
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Currently ride a Specialized Roubaix Expert. This will be my second "fun" bike |
Rapid Tour was Serotta's version of a bike that would fit reasonably sized tires with fenders, and could carry light luggage for credit card touring. In a word, "sensible" and not just a fair weather toy for let's play racer. There's nothing "low end" about that.
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I have a CRT from 97 and it is a superb ride. I have the handle bars set up just a bit higher and it is a super comfortable bike for the long haul. Not the quickest handler, but then it wasn't designed to be
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I can always supply plenty of force to turn a bicycle but when I've been tired or conditions weren't ideal I sometimes lacked the riding skills to prevent line-wandering on twitchy bikes. |
I have one and it is kind of heavy - but I guess that is the point, to be able to carry the rider plus gear. Very practical with fenders, a rack, a triple. The previous owner of my bike did a lot of touring on it and she said it was great. It is a nice commuter now but for weekend rides with friends I prefer a lighter bike.
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I plan to use it for commuting and light touring and use my Roubaix for the weekends. I didn't weigh the bike but I'm guessing around 22- it certainly seemed lighter than a Bianchi Volpe we have at home, also a touring set up of sorts. |
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I have the '99 catalog Also listed in the 52cm RT Geo Chart: Wheelbase: 99.3 Standover: 77.0 |
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Don't know about stem length, but here is the photo from the 99 catalog
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My other ride is a Waterford with a steeper HTA and it is more designed to take a bit more of a racing line through fast curves. |
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No. Perhaps I am not using the correct terminology. With the Waterford, I can take an aggressive line through a curve at speed with the confidence that the bike will hold the line without much input from me. With the CRT, I find that the bike wants to step out just a bit from that same tight line.
Much the same as my wife's min cooper versus my corolla on a winding road. |
In other words, you like a high trail bike that locks in on a line through a corner? Thing is, what happens if you need to change the line -- anything from a pothole to a diminishing radius curve. A bike that locks in on the line can be a real bear when you need to tighten the line. Or, is it possible that by "step out from the line" you mean that the bike wanders? I wonder, what happens if you use a bit wider tire?
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Well I just picked it up- I'm psyched. And I was wrong, it is the bliw shown above, not green. Joel- can you tell me how you modified your stem/rise? Will post a "before" pic when I get a chance. Bruce |
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Had 2001 Rapid Tour, now 2012 custom
(Not sure whether this is the best topic for this, but there hasn't been a lot of other discussion recently about the old Rapid Tour models: )
In 2001 I got a Rapid Tour in Classique titanium. Last summer, it was stolen. I recently got my replacement bike, also in Classique titanium, with (pretty close to) Rapid Tour sizing. Because Serotta no longer makes these as stock frames, I had to do it as a custom order. I'm not sure whether I would have personally wanted to spend the extra money for a custom frame, but it was covered by my insurance. One improvement I noticed in the new frame (compared to the 2001 Rapid Tour) is that the eyelets for the fenders and rear rack are now integral to the frame (and fork), rather than being brazed on. Another improvement, which is probably attributable to the specs drawn up by the fitting person at my local bike shop, is that the front wheel is a little bit further forward, so that it is not possible for my shoe to kick the front fender. This had been an occasional nuisance with the 2001 Rapid Tour frame. It appears that Serotta no longer makes the Classique model of titanium frames, but only the more expensive Legend model. So I am happy that I was able to get my replacement when I did. |
Anyone know the fork span of the Rapid Tour's fork?
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Back and its real close to 370 mm from axle to fork crown (parallel to HT), hard to get a good measure. |
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It was a long time ago but I recall the span being 372. I could be wrong and actual measurements would be best.
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Does anyone have a source to find the complete geometry chart for this Serotta? I would enjoy seeing what was available at the time, and compare it to current sportif machines.
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http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=82628 |
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I just picked one of these up for my fiance. It's a great bike. I believe it's pacific blue and a 50cm model but unsure of the actual model year.
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Have Navy blue 52 kicking around here gathering dust if anyone is interested 53TT.
Wish I could ride it but too big for me. |
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Oooh. Tempting. Would be really tempting if it were Ti or the rapid tour but it's another steel bike and I'm limited on space. Sadly and pragmatically, I think I have to pass on the trade. I'm trying to make space so I have an excuse for something else. :/
Thanks though! |
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