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msl819 03-19-2017 06:56 PM

Recommend a good hand pump for jersey pocket
 
After a two flat day yesterday and an almost fail on my last CO2, I want to try a good hand pump that fits comfortably in a jersey pocket. What are you guys using? What's the best on the market in terms of reliability and ability to air up a tire to 100 plus psi in a reasonable amount of time?

bpm 03-19-2017 07:03 PM

Any pump that will fit in a jersey pocket isn't going to be ideal for getting a tire up to 100psi, and doing so in a reasonable amount of pump strokes. Having said that, I have a Lezyne Pressure Drive S that I've been happy with. Overall it seems really solid and well made. It will hit about 100psi while many others won't get to that pressure. It takes quite a few strokes, but it's what I expected when I bought the pump.

Lovetoclimb 03-19-2017 07:06 PM

The mini Silca makes some nice claims. Personally have not had to use mine yet but it's a nice product in a small package. I know lots of people with the Lezyne mini pumps that are very satisfied as well.

MagicHour 03-19-2017 07:15 PM

I carry a Blackburn Airstik mini SL in my jersey as backup to my co2. Thing is tiny and light-about the size of a small size cigar tube. Will get you to 80 or 90 psi with effort, but works fine for a backup.

dustyrider 03-19-2017 07:23 PM

Lezyne road drive is nice in a jersey pocket.
Topeak peak master blaster.
I also have the master blaster frame pump.
Blackburn used to make a good hand pump, but I went with Topeak and lezyne a few years ago.

I did just order a silca pocket pump to see what all the fuss was about!

OtayBW 03-19-2017 07:28 PM

Leyzyne Pressure Drive. It'll get you home....

Chief 03-19-2017 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHour (Post 2144869)
I carry a Blackburn Airstik mini SL in my jersey as backup to my co2. Thing is tiny and light-about the size of a small size cigar tube. Will get you to 80 or 90 psi with effort, but works fine for a backup.

The Airstik works for me.

cadence90 03-19-2017 08:43 PM

I don't like pumps in my jersey pockets, and a small frame pump is more efficient, so I used to have a Barbieri CarbOne and now have a Silca Tattico mini-pump. With extra bottle cage clamps for 4 bicycles, it is light, easily switched, less than half the cost of a Pocket Impero, and really good.

Louis 03-19-2017 08:45 PM

+1 on Lezyne Road Drive

jasonification 03-19-2017 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cadence90 (Post 2144910)
I don't like pumps in my jersey pockets, and a small frame pump is more efficient, so I used to have a Barbieri CarbOne and now have a Silca Tattico mini-pump. With extra bottle cage clamps for 4 bicycles, it is light, easily switched, less than half the cost of a Pocket Impero, and really good.

+1 on this. I had a pump jump out of my pocket while descending...broke the flexible hose! Gah

Louis 03-19-2017 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by cadence90 (Post 2144910)
I don't like pumps in my jersey pockets

For what it's worth, I don't even notice the frame pump when it's in a jersey pocket. YMMV

Another benefit of the compacts is that if you ride multiple bikes you only need one, not several frame pumps. (unless you're wiling to keep switching the frame pump from bike, to bike, which is a option, if one fits them all, but a bit of a hassle)

cadence90 03-19-2017 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Louis (Post 2144930)
For what it's worth, I don't even notice the frame pump when it's in a jersey pocket. YMMV

Another benefit of the compacts is that if you ride multiple bikes you only need one, not several frame pumps. (unless you're wiling to keep switching the frame pump from bike, to bike, which is a option, if one fits them all, but a bit of a hassle)

As jasonification pointed out, pumps in pockets can fall out.

4 bicycles + 4 sets of bottle cage clamps + 1 Tattico = 0 switching hassle.
The Tattico is not a sized frame pump like the Impero; it is a "mini" frame pump, smaller than a frame pump, but much larger than a pocket pump.

Louis 03-19-2017 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cadence90 (Post 2144935)
As jasonification pointed out, pumps in pockets can fall out.

Are we talking road or MTB?

Hasn't happened to me (yet?) on the road, but sure, I can see that happening on an MTB.

jasonification 03-19-2017 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Louis (Post 2144938)
Are we talking road or MTB?

Hasn't happened to me (yet?) on the road, but sure, I can see that happening on an MTB.

road unfortunately..hit a pothole if i remember correctly

msl819 03-20-2017 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Louis (Post 2144930)
For what it's worth, I don't even notice the frame pump when it's in a jersey pocket. YMMV

Another benefit of the compacts is that if you ride multiple bikes you only need one, not several frame pumps. (unless you're wiling to keep switching the frame pump from bike, to bike, which is a option, if one fits them all, but a bit of a hassle)

This way my line of thinking. I have a saddle bag on all my bikes and plan to keep them, stocked with the necessities, but I was thinking a pump in a pocket would be easy to take on whichever bike, just part of what I stash in the rear pockets. Thanks for the recommendations. Ill see what info I can find on each. It will mostly be for peace of mind knowing that if a CO2 fails I can get home with a hand pump even if it is at a lower than desired psi.

chiasticon 03-20-2017 10:26 AM

in my opinion, the lezyne road drive is just as good as a frame pump. you can get 100psi out of it, without wanting to chuck it into traffic and just call your wife for a ride.

the best frame pumps have a narrow chamber, and the road drive is designed like this. what this does is push less air per stroke, but handles higher pressures better. so it'll take a little longer to get to 100psi than with a pump that has a fatter chamber, but it'll require less effort per stroke.

I still prefer a real frame pump, just because they're more convenient. but when I do need to take the road drive, I don't feel like I'm giving up any pumping power.

kevinvc 03-20-2017 11:04 AM

I have 2 Lyzene pumps: one for higher pressure road tires, and the other for lower pressure but higher volume mt bike tires. The water bottle boss mount is very convenient for the roadie. My favorite is still my frame pump, but it doesn't fit well on my "go fast" bike, which is when I use the mini.

I usually have a small frame bag when on my Fargo, and I just drop it in there.

I have a CO2 that I like a lot, but after seeing them fail on a couple of group rides or else not having enough cartridges, I prefer to carry a pump. There are a couple of models that do both, but I've never tried them.

Tony T 03-20-2017 11:06 AM

Another vote for the Lezyne Road Drive (also this pump can be attached to your bottle cage)

Duende 03-20-2017 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadence90 (Post 2144935)
As jasonification pointed out, pumps in pockets can fall out.

4 bicycles + 4 sets of bottle cage clamps + 1 Tattico = 0 switching hassle.
The Tattico is not a sized frame pump like the Impero; it is a "mini" frame pump, smaller than a frame pump, but much larger than a pocket pump.

This sounds like the way to go to me. CO2 is great and all, but with latex tubes... time is limited.

This could allow me to carry latex spares, and not have to switch back from Butyl when I get home.

Not that it matter, but how much do you think the Tattico weighs?

cadence90 03-20-2017 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Duende (Post 2145194)
This sounds like the way to go to me. CO2 is great and all, but with latex tubes... time is limited.

This could allow me to carry latex spares, and not have to switch back from Butyl when I get home.

Not that it matter, but how much do you think the Tattico weighs?

I think it works, much better than a pocket pump and/or CO2. OMMV.

Weights:
Silca Tattico Mini-Pump: 159g
(by comparison the Barbieri CarbOne mini-pump weighs 61g, but the Tattico is much better, and much better built)
Silca Tattico bottle cage 1-piece clamp: 15g
(Silca don't sell the clamp separately, which is bs imo; lots of people have more than 1 bicycle...)
Barbieri bottle cage clamp (2-pieces): 9g
Generic eBay Taiwan bottle cage 1-piece clamp: 18g

So I use the Tattico clamp, the old Barbieri clamp, and 2 sets of Taiwan clamps on 4 frames, + the 1 Tattico pump between them all.

Similarly, I use 1 Rixen and Kaul saddle bag + 4 sets of Rixen and Kaul "KLICKFix" saddle rail clamps on the 4 Arione saddles. The "KLICKFix" clamps seem much stronger/simpler than the Fizik ICS clamps, and the R&K bags are very nice.

Switching both the Tattico pump and the R&K bag between the 4 bicycles takes literally a few seconds, and all the clamps are very tight and secure. Plus, both the pump and bag are always mounted to 1 frame, so I don't need to look around for the pocket pump I forgot I put on the shelf when I washed my jersey the other day, and is now hiding up there behind the detergent. ;)

Ken Robb 03-20-2017 02:47 PM

I never like to carry anything in my jersey that might stab or bruise me when I fall.

simonov 03-20-2017 02:59 PM

Blackburn Airstik 2Stage has a switch so you can use low pressure to get things started and then switch to high pressure to easily up the PSI. It works pretty well in a pinch. Not quite as small as the basic Airstik but still compact enough to fit in a jersey pocket with plenty of room to spare.

OtayBW 03-20-2017 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OtayBW (Post 2144877)
Leyzyne Pressure Drive. It'll get you home....

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadence90 (Post 2144935)
As jasonification pointed out, pumps in pockets can fall out.

Leyzyne Pressure Drive. It'll get you home....and stay in your jersey pocket! :cool:

ontarget 03-25-2017 08:48 AM

Bought a Lezyne Road Drive recently for the peace of mind that I won't "run out" like can happen with CO2 on a bad day. I went with the medium size and use the included bottle boss mount. It's well hidden under a bottle.

I can easily get a tire up to the needed pressure. It's amazing how well it works. I think the medium is a tad big for a jersey pocket, but they also make a small size that'll fit great. The small just requires more strokes to fill your tire to pressure.

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gallant 03-25-2017 11:30 PM

I also have the Lezyne Road Drive and it does a solid job of getting my tires up to 90 PSI out on the road.

I had the flex hose attachment on it go bad at some point. Lezyne replaced it via warranty with no hassles. They have great customer service.

I've been eyeing the Silica Pocket Impero. But so far can't justify the cost given I am happy with my Lezyne.

htwoopup 03-26-2017 06:22 PM

The Silca has worked for me. That said, I am now getting concerned about things that could hurt me when I crash. But I am rationalizing that if something in the middle pocket was going to hurt me I would be pretty hurt anyway. I know that is an illogical rationalization.


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