Orbea Gain ebikes
 

I have to say, IMO, one of the most aesthetically pleasing, well-specified, lighter-weight, longer-range ebike lineups I've yet seen. Coming to the U.S. soon.

• Completely internal
• 60 mile range, doubles to 120 with bottle cage spare battery
• Starts at about 28 pounds total weight

Gain Urban ~$2,000-2,600
https://gzmyu4ma9b-flywheel.netdna-s...n_Gain-F10.jpg

Gain Road ~$2,150-3,600
https://gzmyu4ma9b-flywheel.netdna-s...n_Gain-D10.jpg

Gain All-Road (fits 40s!) ~$3,000-3,600
https://gzmyu4ma9b-flywheel.netdna-s...n_Gain-D15.jpg

P.S. - I'm certain there will be negative comments posted about this . . . but for the record, I'm in the anything-that-gets-more-people-on-bikes camp.

These really are the Endtimes. Check out the copy on the road edition. I need another drink.

Well that didn't take long (said in all good nature). But, seriously, who gives a f*#! about the ad copy, what about the bike?!

I may need one the way my back is going :mad:

The three of them look good. Would love giving any of them a spin. I bet they're a blast.

It looks like a modern road bike but it rides better because you can use less effort to go faster. The cyclists you pass on your regular route won't know you are on a motorbike. That is cool.

I'm five years "does it have 120mi range" will be the new "does it fit 28s".

The future. Much better looking than the beast from Giant.

I'd rather a Seven or Parlee with the Vivax assist motor, frankly, but these show that the Basques are pointing us to the future.

Good for them. And good for cycling.

I would rock the isht outta that URBAN. Sweet bike(s)!

Check your local laws of course, but I think we're good around here up to 20mph before it's not legally a bicycle-
The movie says 15mph max.
Suddenly I feel so speedy!

A gent came out on his electric mtb-ish model to join our club ride.
Why not, but we told him we tried to average 18-20mph, he said no problem.
He was dropped on the first slight descent at 20mph, we hauled him back in, explained the speed thing again, and dropped him again- sorry man!

I'm glad my paycheck is not linked to electric bike acceptance.
They're cool, sure, but $2k+ so I don't to sweat *as much*?

Give me a Copenhagen wheel or somesuch to play with for a week.
Or month.
And price it under 1k.

I think they look better in the original Team Sky color way.

They seem to be missing regen mode, great for braking on long downhills,
and getting a better workout in the flats.

hoping one will show up in 10 days
 

but not sure who will foot the bill. Looks like really good fun.

https://www.e-bikeshop.co.uk/blog/po...ea-gain-ebike/

A sales guy at my LBS said he took a trek e-hardtail out for a spin on local trails and said it was outrageously fun. He had no shame and said if he had $5k extra he would buy one this instant.

I have no plans to buy one, but no doubt, I bet it’s super fun!

Wilier also jumped into the pool. I like Orbea's offering of the Urban better. It is also half the price.
Urban
https://cdn.wilier.com/sites/default...?itok=uksgyQcu
Adventure
https://cdn.wilier.com/sites/default...?itok=dn9LoMEJ
MTB
https://cdn.wilier.com/sites/default...?itok=nnX2AyTt

I think the evolution of the electric bike is very positive. It doesn't make sense to duplicate a motor scooter, power and range-wise. The concept is moving towards smaller and lighter, and lower speeds, no throttle, just multiplying the input of the rider. If an everyday rider is putting out 100W, then a 250W motor is a big boost for hills and into the wind. Years ago John Tetz was making enclosed 2 and 3 wheel recumbents with very low power assist, adding about 4 pounds total to his creations. He told me he had about 20 minutes of boost, which was enough in a typical ride of 1-2 hours to get him (in his 70s) up the hills (http://www.recumbents.com/wisil/tetz...ic/default.htm).

The Copenhagen wheel is too heavy, but the concept of no wires, throttle, brake lever cut-offs, etc. - just a small motor and small battery and adding to the rider's output based on sensing their input level - makes total sense to me.

Our MTB group has a rider who is highly skilled and in great condition who has a FS ebike. That doesn't make much sense to me, because it is over 50 pounds - the system adds well over 20 pounds. When he's out of juice he has a real tank, plus, even with an energized system, he has a bike that weighs twice as much to toss around.